General 3pm "blackout" Yes, No or Maybe?

Saturday 3pm "blackout" yes, no or maybe

  • Yes

    Votes: 21 30.0%
  • No

    Votes: 37 52.9%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 12 17.1%

  • Total voters
    70
  • Poll closed .
What is a definite NO is premiership games on TV at 3.00pm. Imagine the scenario .......... Dad a regular Oxford fan wants to take 6 year child to first Oxford game. But all his mates at school will be watching Man U, Liverpool etc live on TV, the child will want to watch the TV so he can talk about it at school. Nothing should distract from getting the kids down to their first live game at their local club. That is the first step of getting them hooked for life (poor lad, or lass)
 
I’m for live games on ifollow, as others have said people can’t always get to games for one reason or another especially away games. I also agree with @NottsYellow where he states Dad wants to take his 6 year old to the local team game but the 6 year old wants to watch Premiership games so they can join in with their mates at school on a Monday morning. It is an issue but Ifollow should still show games.
 
What is a definite NO is premiership games on TV at 3.00pm. Imagine the scenario .......... Dad a regular Oxford fan wants to take 6 year child to first Oxford game. But all his mates at school will be watching Man U, Liverpool etc live on TV, the child will want to watch the TV so he can talk about it at school. Nothing should distract from getting the kids down to their first live game at their local club. That is the first step of getting them hooked for life (poor lad, or lass)

I doubt a separation between PL and EFL would have a leg to stand on when challenged in court (and it would be). It would have to be all in or none in, hence why it's a blackout at the moment.
 
Reading Mr. McWilliam's comments it's interesting to note that the 3pm blackout was apparently brought in sixty years ago to protect small clubs.

There was no Internet, no means to charge per view and a tiny range of broadcast options (2). People lived far closer to their place of birth, travel was slower. Outside of the top half dozen teams football was played in shitholes on mud for half the season and was a pretty dire spectacle outside Division 1, outside of which players enjoyed the working conditions and remuneration of pit ponies. It was watched by hardy devotees who would put up with insanity facilities, risk of violence (more in the 70s and 80s I guess) and general boisterousness.

None of these (except the last on good days) apply today.

As an exile who rarely missed a home game for 10 years, and probably spent more last season on iFollow as my season ticket the previous season.

I believe there are now loads of people displaced across the country who still will watch their team either through home membership or going to away games with their mates (see u at 'Nam). Outside the P's**t and Champeenship we struggle to watch the games we don't go to. Which loses a source of revenue and visibility our div 3 and 4 clubs need. It obviously also disadvantages oufc in attracting day trippers from the geographical hinterland too, who would know the players better when they don't go to their 4 seasonal matches.

I suspect this is why Plymouth are in favour, for one.

It's disappointing that oufc has backed the medieval blackout when the club is supposedly moving to a new stadium that will provide a better all-round experience, investing in an exciting team that will rise up the pyramid.

There is a world of media, of ways of enjoying football, of revenue, that can be explored with membership, videos, live-streaming that can be used to retain and reward fans. Supporting or facilitating the next Ultras, allowing fans to watch online when they want.

I'd be for that.
The opening line says it all, "the 3pm blackout was apparently brought in sixty years ago". And yet still, clubs want to hang on to this archaic legislation. We live in a digital age where technology has created a myriad number of possibilities for entertainment and still we hold with attending, in person, at a crumbling, dirty, ill equipped stadium to cheer on our boys. Have the clubs learnt anything over the last 60 years? Whenever a match thread starts now it's guaranteed that the question will be posed, "anyone got a link to a live stream?" All those using a VPN to access live coverage make no attempt to hide the fact that the technology is out there and yet, the clubs still hide behind 60 year old thinking.
Do they really believe that we are all just hanging on the edge of our comfy armchairs for the chance to watch a single camera angle, scratchy image with out of synch commentary, interfering replays, adverts and crap music rather than attend in person?
 
What is a definite NO is premiership games on TV at 3.00pm. Imagine the scenario .......... Dad a regular Oxford fan wants to take 6 year child to first Oxford game. But all his mates at school will be watching Man U, Liverpool etc live on TV, the child will want to watch the TV so he can talk about it at school. Nothing should distract from getting the kids down to their first live game at their local club. That is the first step of getting them hooked for life (poor lad, or lass)
Six year olds aren’t bothered about what’s on tv. The majority of parents don’t pay to have Sky. And as has been said the big teams would probably not be on at 3 on Saturday, it would be boring Burnley v Fulham
 
Six year olds aren’t bothered about what’s on tv. The majority of parents don’t pay to have Sky. And as has been said the big teams would probably not be on at 3 on Saturday, it would be boring Burnley v Fulham
Are you quite sure about that?
 
Make no mistake, the only reason this is a national talking point right now is because Man Utd fans are upset that they miss the return of Cristiano Ronaldo later this afternoon.

It is fantasy to suggest we could stream our 3pm games and the Premier League would not get the same rights.

And then the young uns in Oxford can choose to nag their parents either for the single camera angle, scratchy image with out of synch commentary, interfering replays, adverts and crap music, or the slick efforts of the fully staffed Man Utd commercial, production and online departments that their mates will be watching.
 
Six year olds aren’t bothered about what’s on tv. The majority of parents don’t pay to have Sky. And as has been said the big teams would probably not be on at 3 on Saturday, it would be boring Burnley v Fulham
Won't pay for Sky but will pay £10 a game to watch football on TV?
 
Make no mistake, the only reason this is a national talking point right now is because Man Utd fans are upset that they miss the return of Cristiano Ronaldo later this afternoon.

Which is Sky's fault for failing to pick that match to show
 
May be the case but don't think it changes the argument

Not at all and if it wasn't this game, it would have been something else that would have brought this into the spotlight. I think it should be noted that Sky can see it losing out on a potentially large viewership for one match and have been instrumental in bringing this to public consciousness.
 
Won't pay for Sky but will pay £10 a game to watch football on TV?
is that not the whole point though? if you pay a subscription to Sky Bt or Amazon They decide what you can watch and when. Every Premier League game today whether on tv or not is easily obtained if you so desire. If every game across the leagues was a 3pm kick off and "all" available to view people would decide what they would watch and it would be their club they chose. People who go to games would still go and where the odd few may not the loss would be non existent as thousands would be paying to view.

In the past there wee numerous occasions when Oxford were playing and there was an England game or champions League on tv and i doubt anyone who was going to the game remained at home. if the same happened now and there was a choice of games across the board via tv or stream fans of Oxford and their opponents who could not attend would pay to watch their team.
 
Make no mistake, the only reason this is a national talking point right now is because Man Utd fans are upset that they miss the return of Cristiano Ronaldo later this afternoon.

It is fantasy to suggest we could stream our 3pm games and the Premier League would not get the same rights.

And then the young uns in Oxford can choose to nag their parents either for the single camera angle, scratchy image with out of synch commentary, interfering replays, adverts and crap music, or the slick efforts of the fully staffed Man Utd commercial, production and online departments that their mates will be watching.
That's only because your local team has never been in your living room and all the kids only got to see was the Premier League
 
Which is Sky's fault for failing to pick that match to show
not really the schedules were decided before but that then strengthens the argument to give people a choice surely and it's not as though those that want to see that game are unable to.
 
The only worry would be that the TV deals would collapse entirely, and clubs would all set up their own TV channels and keep all of the money. The only winners in that case would be the big clubs, they would get richer, everyone else would be left fighting over crumbs.
 
The only worry would be that the TV deals would collapse entirely, and clubs would all set up their own TV channels and keep all of the money. The only winners in that case would be the big clubs, they would get richer, everyone else would be left fighting over crumbs.
That's just a sign that money is all, the smaller clubs bow to the likes of Sky Bt etc for the money they give. i'm unsure of how much clubs like ours get from the tv deal but with a little forethought the income streams could easily outweigh that amount and in a very short time.
 
That's just a sign that money is all, the smaller clubs bow to the likes of Sky Bt etc for the money they give. i'm unsure of how much clubs like ours get from the tv deal but with a little forethought the income streams could easily outweigh that amount and in a very short time.
Possibly, this is why the clubs need to get together and actually try it. Until we have a go, it's all speculation.
 
Possibly, this is why the clubs need to get together and actually try it. Until we have a go, it's all speculation.
Given that the likes of Liverpool and Man Utd will almost certainly benefit from being able to roll this out to their fans, good luck getting them to rein it back in if us and Accrington Stanley don't like it.
 
Possibly, this is why the clubs need to get together and actually try it. Until we have a go, it's all speculation.
The problem though is the longer they dilly dally the more people will latch on to "other" means of viewing and then the bird will have flown
 
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