Manager/Coach Karl Robinson.

werthersoriginal said:
It would be good to see another youth breaking through rather than them all going to City. Hopefully next year a couple will start to play.
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even better for a few to come through the ranks .... following in the footsteps of Joey,...... and Sam Long , ..... Matty Taylor too
 
Big Ron said:
Oddly enough, a Wycombe supporting friend was asking me about our recruitment team the other week - he was saying how good we had been over the past few years why and hadn't anyone tried to recruit our recruitment team!
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That's an easy one, they'd need our Recruitment team to Recruit our Recruitment team.....i'll get my coat;)
 
MJB said:
Somewhat off-topic, but I’m pleased to see CW on people’s Top 5 and 10 lists.

People were understandably pained by the fashion in which he left (and the last few seasons when unfortunately things got stale and the money tap was being turned off) but overall he did a good job, got us promoted and established as us a professional, competitive football league club again.

Arguably our most important promotion too.
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He's my number 1 by a clear distance in my lifetime. An absolutely brilliant manager who got this club by the scruff of its neck and put it back on the right track. He was abrasive, arrogant, passionate, demanding, everything this club needed at the time.

He has since proven to be a top manager at every club he's been too.. and still makes to return for reunions etc.
 
greatunclekip said:
He's my number 1 by a clear distance in my lifetime. An absolutely brilliant manager who got this club by the scruff of its neck and put it back on the right track. He was abrasive, arrogant, passionate, demanding, everything this club needed at the time.

He has since proven to be a top manager at every club he's been too.. and still makes to return for reunions etc.
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Careful now, you’ll get the ‘he’s-only-good-because-of-his-assistant’ brigade on your back with talk like that!
 
I think Wilder proved to me that you real don't have to 'like' a manager to admire how he goes about his business. He always looked like a particularly grumpy bulldog chewing a particularly angry wasp - and that was when he was in a *good* mood - but what he did for the club and when he did it was absolutely vital.
 
ZeroTheHero said:
I think Wilder proved to me that you real don't have to 'like' a manager to admire how he goes about his business. He always looked like a particularly grumpy bulldog chewing a particularly angry wasp - and that was when he was in a *good* mood - but what he did for the club and when he did it was absolutely vital.
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He's actually a nice guy, both myself and various friends have encountered him around Sheffields hostelries and my brother knows him from refereeing duties.

He has high standards. And is VERY defensive when it comes to his pasta.
 
Foley said:
I am not referring to Seddon and Winnall.
I am referring to quality like the 2 Baldocks, Will Keane, Smith at Rotherham and that kind of player.
And I am not suggesting that we get rid of our model entirely.
To go up we need to go up a level. We cant sell our best players, replace them with I experienced young players and expect to finish above Wigan Rotherham, Blackburn etc
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But that is all looking at it after that fact.
Sam Winnall and Sam Baldock had almost exactly the same career history before we brought the two of them in.
Will Keane had a great pedigree but have never scored more than three league goals in a season before Wigan signed him and was a big-time flop the year before at Ipswich.
Michael Smith scored a total of ten goals in the three years before Rotherham bought him (some of which was spent at League Two level).

Which is all to say that while there may be a little less variance when you bring in experienced pros vs. talented youngsters, it's still a crapshoot and a lot more expensive!
If it wasn't then Ipswich would've won the league by a mile this year because they brought in a ton of 'that kind of player'......at least on paper.
 
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ZeroTheHero said:
He always looked like a particularly grumpy bulldog chewing a particularly angry wasp - and that was when he was in a *good* mood
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Love that this is STILL his Wikipedia photo!

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Related to the BBC podcast he did:

"Scouse f----t!"
"Gay Scouse c---!"
"Thieving Scouse c---!"
"Hope your dad dies of cancer!"
"97 Scouse c---- gone at Hillsborough - always victims!"

It is April 23 2022, and Rotherham United are at home to Oxford United. It is a crucial League One promotion clash but, for a small but vocal section of home fans behind the dug-out, the match seems a mere sideshow to the opportunity to launch a stream of vile abuse at Karl Robinson, Oxford's manager.

Unusually, you can hear this for yourself. Robinson has been given a microphone as part of a behind-the-scenes podcast series, Moment of Truth, for BBC Five Live. All the invective is caught on the audio and forms the basis of one of the 15 episodes.

It is disturbing listening and, at one point, an exasperated Robinson even threatens to stop the game unless the stewards take action.

“They just throw things at you – about my dad, my mum, my kids,” he says of the abuse. “My dad might have passed away, he might be ill – thankfully he is not. Maybe that kind of abuse has always been there but in this podcast it is very evident what gets said. It’s something that needed to be left in. Some people might say ‘why did you have to do that?’ But it’s important.

“From the minority, no, that abuse was not unusual. I hate talking about the minority because there is so much good in the game but it happened. And sometimes it leaves you at breaking point.”

Despite being just 41 Robinson is one of the most experienced and respected managers in the English Football League. He started managing at 29 with MK Dons, and, remarkably, already has 650 games to his name. But he admits he was shaken by what happened at Rotherham.

“Being from Liverpool comes up a lot, Hillsborough comes up. Liverpool is a city I am immensely proud of but people make terrible statements,” Robinson says. “I thought Covid would have stopped a lot of negative things being said but all it’s done is increase the criticism, especially on social media which, at that time, was the only way for people to connect. On top of that, going back to stadiums has not made it any better. We all had this vision that the world would be a better place, that we would appreciate it more. But no."



Robinson takes a breath. “Listen, my language can be terrible, and it’s part of me that I want to make better, but it’s not abusive.

"One of the bits we left in the podcast was someone saying the word ‘poof’ to me. I said, ‘Be careful - you don’t know the effect that can have on the person next to you’. The young guy, Jake Daniels, came out at Blackpool earlier this year and we wonder why it doesn’t happen more."

This is not to single out Rotherham - Robinson is at pains to acknowledge that the Yorkshire club are "one of the nicest" in the league, full of "very good people". Such comments will provide a soundtrack to matches up and down the land once the new domestic season begins, all of which makes you wonder why managers are prepared to put themselves through it all.



'Moment of Truth' is a candid portrait of the toll the job takes. Robinson is one focus for the series; the other, ironically, is Rotherham’s Paul Warne.

The pair are good friends and their warmth shines through, even if it is tested by their respective clubs tussling for the prize of promotion. Rotherham ultimately gain automatic promotion to the Championship; Oxford just miss out on the play-offs and both men are searingly honest in the emotions they go through and the effect the job has on them and their families.

Robinson has a striking analogy when he considers how it feels to patrol his technical area.



“You are like a tiger in a zoo,” he says. “And everyone judges you on a two-metre-by-six-metre space. It’s only a tiny part of who I am but it is 100 per cent of what people see. I am not a reserved manager. When I am at a club I am all in and I am there to win."

Experience has taught Robinson to be more open – although admirably it has always been in his nature – and this is another reason why he agreed to the podcast, which he hopes will give a greater sense into what it really is like to be a football manager.

“I probably acted in the beginning in the wrong way. I tried to pretend it didn’t bother me. But I am comfortable being vulnerable now,” Robinson says. “I see it more as a sign of strength than a weakness. Even though I am a football manager I am not detached from the rawness of life, it’s the same with the players. They are not superhuman. It’s me doing a job. It’s not the job defining me.”

There are touching exchanges in the podcast in which Robinson’s wife, Ann, and his 16-year-old daughter, Jasmine, talk about the impact his work has on them. Warne's wife, Rachel, does the same.



Robinson admits that being a manager has “tested” his marriage but seems relieved that Jasmine is able to treat the abuse with a degree of "flippancy". It is her way of dealing with it.

Not that Robinson wants to sanitise the game. Far from it. He hated the “soullessness” of games behind closed doors.

“There are certain places you go where, as I have done for so long, you actually get to know some of the people [behind the dugouts],” Robinson says. “There’s a guy at Accrington. He’s funny, he’s witty and he gets to me sometimes. He’s trying to put me off my game but he is never abusive. Sheffield Wednesday, also, is a great place. People are brilliant. At no stage do they talk about where I am from or parents but they give me loads of criticism. I don’t want to sanitise it. I don’t want to lose that.”

Robinson's enduring love for the game, and addiction to the thrill of winning, is why throughout the summer he was looking forward to Oxford's opening League One game against relegated Derby County.



But, as he intimated at Rotherham, he is not prepared to simply accept abuse that reaches truly intolerable levels.

“Would I stop it [a match]? I think if it got to that point then yes, I would. And I would do it, 100 per cent, if it was one of my players. Something has to be done.”
 
gingerox said:
Related to the BBC podcast he did:

"Scouse f----t!"
"Gay Scouse c---!"
"Thieving Scouse c---!"
"Hope your dad dies of cancer!"
"97 Scouse c---- gone at Hillsborough - always victims!"

It is April 23 2022, and Rotherham United are at home to Oxford United. It is a crucial League One promotion clash but, for a small but vocal section of home fans behind the dug-out, the match seems a mere sideshow to the opportunity to launch a stream of vile abuse at Karl Robinson, Oxford's manager.

Unusually, you can hear this for yourself. Robinson has been given a microphone as part of a behind-the-scenes podcast series, Moment of Truth, for BBC Five Live. All the invective is caught on the audio and forms the basis of one of the 15 episodes.

It is disturbing listening and, at one point, an exasperated Robinson even threatens to stop the game unless the stewards take action.

“They just throw things at you – about my dad, my mum, my kids,” he says of the abuse. “My dad might have passed away, he might be ill – thankfully he is not. Maybe that kind of abuse has always been there but in this podcast it is very evident what gets said. It’s something that needed to be left in. Some people might say ‘why did you have to do that?’ But it’s important.

“From the minority, no, that abuse was not unusual. I hate talking about the minority because there is so much good in the game but it happened. And sometimes it leaves you at breaking point.”

Despite being just 41 Robinson is one of the most experienced and respected managers in the English Football League. He started managing at 29 with MK Dons, and, remarkably, already has 650 games to his name. But he admits he was shaken by what happened at Rotherham.

“Being from Liverpool comes up a lot, Hillsborough comes up. Liverpool is a city I am immensely proud of but people make terrible statements,” Robinson says. “I thought Covid would have stopped a lot of negative things being said but all it’s done is increase the criticism, especially on social media which, at that time, was the only way for people to connect. On top of that, going back to stadiums has not made it any better. We all had this vision that the world would be a better place, that we would appreciate it more. But no."



Robinson takes a breath. “Listen, my language can be terrible, and it’s part of me that I want to make better, but it’s not abusive.

"One of the bits we left in the podcast was someone saying the word ‘poof’ to me. I said, ‘Be careful - you don’t know the effect that can have on the person next to you’. The young guy, Jake Daniels, came out at Blackpool earlier this year and we wonder why it doesn’t happen more."

This is not to single out Rotherham - Robinson is at pains to acknowledge that the Yorkshire club are "one of the nicest" in the league, full of "very good people". Such comments will provide a soundtrack to matches up and down the land once the new domestic season begins, all of which makes you wonder why managers are prepared to put themselves through it all.



'Moment of Truth' is a candid portrait of the toll the job takes. Robinson is one focus for the series; the other, ironically, is Rotherham’s Paul Warne.

The pair are good friends and their warmth shines through, even if it is tested by their respective clubs tussling for the prize of promotion. Rotherham ultimately gain automatic promotion to the Championship; Oxford just miss out on the play-offs and both men are searingly honest in the emotions they go through and the effect the job has on them and their families.

Robinson has a striking analogy when he considers how it feels to patrol his technical area.



“You are like a tiger in a zoo,” he says. “And everyone judges you on a two-metre-by-six-metre space. It’s only a tiny part of who I am but it is 100 per cent of what people see. I am not a reserved manager. When I am at a club I am all in and I am there to win."

Experience has taught Robinson to be more open – although admirably it has always been in his nature – and this is another reason why he agreed to the podcast, which he hopes will give a greater sense into what it really is like to be a football manager.

“I probably acted in the beginning in the wrong way. I tried to pretend it didn’t bother me. But I am comfortable being vulnerable now,” Robinson says. “I see it more as a sign of strength than a weakness. Even though I am a football manager I am not detached from the rawness of life, it’s the same with the players. They are not superhuman. It’s me doing a job. It’s not the job defining me.”

There are touching exchanges in the podcast in which Robinson’s wife, Ann, and his 16-year-old daughter, Jasmine, talk about the impact his work has on them. Warne's wife, Rachel, does the same.



Robinson admits that being a manager has “tested” his marriage but seems relieved that Jasmine is able to treat the abuse with a degree of "flippancy". It is her way of dealing with it.

Not that Robinson wants to sanitise the game. Far from it. He hated the “soullessness” of games behind closed doors.

“There are certain places you go where, as I have done for so long, you actually get to know some of the people [behind the dugouts],” Robinson says. “There’s a guy at Accrington. He’s funny, he’s witty and he gets to me sometimes. He’s trying to put me off my game but he is never abusive. Sheffield Wednesday, also, is a great place. People are brilliant. At no stage do they talk about where I am from or parents but they give me loads of criticism. I don’t want to sanitise it. I don’t want to lose that.”

Robinson's enduring love for the game, and addiction to the thrill of winning, is why throughout the summer he was looking forward to Oxford's opening League One game against relegated Derby County.



But, as he intimated at Rotherham, he is not prepared to simply accept abuse that reaches truly intolerable levels.

“Would I stop it [a match]? I think if it got to that point then yes, I would. And I would do it, 100 per cent, if it was one of my players. Something has to be done.”
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Thanks for sharing that 👍
 
oufc1991 said:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...view-fans-say-hope-dad-dies-cancer-wont-take/


Has anyone else seen this I wasn't able to read it because not subscribed
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Oxford United manager threatened to stop match after shocking abuse from fans - Fan Banter

Oxford United manager Karl Robinson threatened to stop last season’s match at Rotherham United after shocking abuse from fans. The U’s boss spoke of the incident, which came on the 23rd April 2022, as part of a behind-the-scenes podcast series, Moment of Truth, for BBC Radio 5 Live. You can hear...
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Scotchegg said:
Some disgusting comments on there that are totally uncalled for and would never be tolerated away from football.

Sadly some of the comments referenced have also been used by some on here which is even more shameful.
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I’m not a KR fan, but would never wish his family to suffer the (C) word.

He does come out with some right old tosh at times, but I don’t think he deserves to be spoken to in that manner.
 
Scotchegg said:
Some disgusting comments on there that are totally uncalled for and would never be tolerated away from football.

Sadly some of the comments referenced have also been used by some on here which is even more shameful.
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Certainly the 'always the victims' stuff, as on the face of it it could be seen as an innocuous dig but it's a Hillsborough dog whistle.
 
I’d be disappointed if he stopped a match, he says he doesn’t want to sanitise it but you couldn’t get more sanitised than stopping play. Abuse on a personal level of course isn’t nice but it’s part and parcel of the tribal nature of football. Fans from every club, Oxford included, hurl personal abuse at virtually every away game. They’d think nothing of taunting an overweight steward or homing in on a stand out opposition fan.

I’d stop short of condoning anything racial, anything too personal regarding someone’s sexuality and certainly wouldn’t agree with anything that makes light of a serious illness, disability or disfigurement but anything else goes. We are heading towards a society with no resilience to anything it seems.
 
dickwalton1964 said:
I’d be disappointed if he stopped a match, he says he doesn’t want to sanitise it but you couldn’t get more sanitised than stopping play. Abuse on a personal level of course isn’t nice but it’s part and parcel of the tribal nature of football. Fans from every club, Oxford included, hurl personal abuse at virtually every away game. They’d think nothing of taunting an overweight steward or homing in on a stand out opposition fan.

I’d stop short of condoning anything racial, anything too personal regarding someone’s sexuality and certainly wouldn’t agree with anything that makes light of a serious illness, disability or disfigurement but anything else goes. We are heading towards a society with no resilience to anything it seems.
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We're hopefully heading towards a society where we respect others regardless of their differences.

Seeing as you were one of those condoning homophobic comments last season as "banter" and have now said that you wouldn't want something too personal regarding someone's sexuality, it's pretty clear what your views are.

The only thing that goes should be you and you're horribly dated views.
 
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