Ref Watch SAFC V OUFC LEAGUE 1 2/4/2021 Trevor Kettle

[ttg17]

From our point if view he was quite lenient towards Oxford with his card. There were some tasty tackles going in and he could have got his yellow out a lot more. KR should gave subbed Sykes was obvious he was in real danger of a sending off.

Is this a joke?

We were getting booked for f**k all and Sunderland were getting away with hacking down Shodipo and Taylor all first half. Face it, the ref had a shocker and you massively benefited.

 

[werthersoriginal]

I meant this season. Don't want to meet you in play offs. Get the chip off your shoulder.

Yes OK, I get what you mean. Your lot really need to go for second, you don’t want to meet anyone in the playoffs!

 

[Sinner]

Is this a joke?

We were getting booked for f**k all and Sunderland were getting away with hacking down Shodipo and Taylor all first half. Face it, the ref had a shocker and you massively benefited.

I missed the bookings, my bad.

 

[Manorlounger]

We took a quick free kick which was clever. The defender did not have a head injury, so no problem, and if you watch he was getting up then saw we had taken free kick and went down again. He was trying to cheat and let his team down, not the ref.
Ref wasn't great mind, but did nothing wrong there. Your problems were closer to home. What had KR been taking? Embarrassing.
Good luck with test of season and hopefully we don't play you again.

So let's deal with this properly. You watched the game as a Sunderland supporter, we watched as Oxford supporters so, we both saw things from differing perspectives. However, if one deals in fact backed up by video, then I would hope, you would have to agree which version of the event is the truth.



And then a moment later, literally seconds:


As you will have to agree, incontrovertible evidence that the kick was taken from the wrong spot, with Brannagan down on the ground and Kettle well aware that a player who had just been involved in a coming together of two players was not on his feet and may well have been injured.
Now, it may be that one could argue that the ball was in play when he became aware of the potential injury but, the kick had only just been taken and could very easily have been re-spotted and taken again, even from the correct position.
My own opinion, that Kettle has shown scant regard for a potential injury and by doing so shown bias towards Sunderland and allowed play to continue thus affording Sunderland advantage.

So, by all means come on our forum and give us the benefit of your opinions but, get the facts right before maligning OUFC on our forum. And, if you really believe that Kettle has done nothing wrong then it just shows how little your opinion is worth.

 

[MC Yellow]

https://twitter.com/x/status/986339358327353345

One from a few years ago involving Kettle. The number of horrific performances from him officiating Oxford United games must be into double figures.

I had a good chat with a former football league referee a few years back, at a football tournament. Even he agreed that Kettle was an awful referee.

There must be more deserving refs, worthy of a place in the Football League than this unfit and incompetent Charlatan.

Plenty of decent female refs coming through.

 

[Sinner]

So let's deal with this properly. You watched the game as a Sunderland supporter, we watched as Oxford supporters so, we both saw things from differing perspectives. However, if one deals in fact backed up by video, then I would hope, you would have to agree which version of the event is the truth.

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And then a moment later, literally seconds:
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As you will have to agree, incontrovertible evidence that the kick was taken from the wrong spot, with Brannagan down on the ground and Kettle well aware that a player who had just been involved in a coming together of two players was not on his feet and may well have been injured.
Now, it may be that one could argue that the ball was in play when he became aware of the potential injury but, the kick had only just been taken and could very easily have been re-spotted and taken again, even from the correct position.
My own opinion, that Kettle has shown scant regard for a potential injury and by doing so shown bias towards Sunderland and allowed play to continue thus affording Sunderland advantage.

So, by all means come on our forum and give us the benefit of your opinions but, get the facts right before maligning OUFC on our forum. And, if you really believe that Kettle has done nothing wrong then it just shows how little your opinion is worth.

I did look at this again and realised he went back down before the kick was taken, but not much too wrong IMHO, which you regard as worthless, and certainly doesn't justify the anguish and gnasing of teeth by some. It was a quick free kick, ffs

 

[Manorlounger]

I did look at this again and realised he went back down before the kick was taken, but not much too wrong IMHO, which you regard as worthless, and certainly doesn't justify the anguish and gnasing of teeth by some. It was a quick free kick, ffs

Hardly needs saying that your response is pretty much expected.

Having said that, you do admit to "not much too wrong IMHO" so, something was wrong and that is when Kettle needed to stop the play and make sure.

 

[Sinner]

Hardly needs saying that your response is pretty much expected.

Having said that, you do admit to "not much too wrong IMHO" so, something was wrong and that is when Kettle needed to stop the play and make sure.

That's what I'm not getting. You only have to stop playing if a head injury. Play often continues around injured players, although you're player was acting up, and let you down.

 

[Manorlounger]

That's what I'm not getting. You only have to stop playing if a head injury. Play often continues around injured players, although you're player was acting up, and let you down.

Play had not re-started. Get that through those pussycat goggles.

 

[MC Yellow]

I did look at this again and realised he went back down before the kick was taken, but not much too wrong IMHO, which you regard as worthless, and certainly doesn't justify the anguish and gnasing of teeth by some. It was a quick free kick, ffs

No issue with quick free kicks, it is a very clever part of the game. We have benefited from similar quick decisions in the past.

But I do have an issue when clearly a player is down and the kick is not taken from the correct spot. Both of which are blindingly obvious.

Many times previous, Mr Kettle was being quite precise with his can of spray, but not in this particular instance it seems.

This is the frustration of his ineptitude.

 

[Sinner]

Play had not re-started. Get that through those pussycat goggles.

Check the rules. Ref blows for free kick, and team plays quick. Does not matter a jot if a player is down, unless a head injury. If it was serious you would expect the ref to hold up play and get player attention, but your player was clearly not seriously injured. Perhaps you need pussycat eyes to see that.

 

[Sinner]

No issue with quick free kicks, it is a very clever part of the game. We have benefited from similar quick decisions in the past.

But I do have an issue when clearly a player is down and the kick is not taken from the correct spot. Both of which are blindingly obvious.

Many times previous, Mr Kettle was being quite precise with his can of spray, but not in this particular instance it seems.

This is the frustration of his ineptitude.

Agree regarding where kick was taken from, but not about the player being down. I understand your frustration but the decision not as bad as some make out

 

[Manorlounger]

Check the rules. Ref blows for free kick, and team plays quick. Does not matter a jot if a player is down, unless a head injury. If it was serious you would expect the ref to hold up play and get player attention, but your player was clearly not seriously injured. Perhaps you need pussycat eyes to see that.

Ah! You're a qualified medical practitioner as well then? Not so many weeks ago that very same player was told he had a very serious eye problem that without specialist intervention would have lead to him going blind. There was nothing obvious about that ailment at the time. Play had not re-started, a player was down and play should not have been allowed to start or continue.

 

[Sinner]

Ah! You're a qualified medical practitioner as well then? Not so many weeks ago that very same player was told he had a very serious eye problem that without specialist intervention would have lead to him going blind. There was nothing obvious about that ailment at the time. Play had not re-started, a player was down and play should not have been allowed to start or continue.

No, just know the rules and know football.

Ah! You're a qualified medical practitioner as well then? Not so many weeks ago that very same player was told he had a very serious eye problem that without specialist intervention would have lead to him going blind. There was nothing obvious about that ailment at the time. Play had not re-started, a player was down and play should not have been allowed to start or continue.

No, but know the rules and understand football. Your defender was on his knees complaing to ref, and did not have a head injury. When he didn't get his own way he went down, and was an idiot.

 

[MC Yellow]

Agree regarding where kick was taken from, but not about the player being down. I understand your frustration but the decision not as bad as some make out

At the end of the day if Kettle had allowed the free kick to be taken from the correct place he would first have had to wait for our player to get to his feet.

You may well feel justified to criticise our player for staying down, but two wrongs don’t make a right.

I am sure we both agree that had this been the other way around we wouldn’t have given a second thought to your player staying down and our stance would have been just as yours is now.

The joy of footy eh?

 

[Sinner]

At the end of the day if Kettle had allowed the free kick to be taken from the correct place he would first have had to wait for our player to get to his feet.

You may well feel justified to criticise our player for staying down, but two wrongs don’t make a right.

I am sure we both agree that had this been the other way around we wouldn’t have given a second thought to your player staying down and our stance would have been just as yours is now.

The joy of footy eh?

Totally agree

 

[Sarge]

The refs in this league are not good, and I laugh at Premier league fans complaining about VAR. If only we had it in L1.
However, I have a different perspective from the match, as you would expect.
I watched it with @Bodminyellow (Teams) and a few others and the Oxford boys were muttering on about about the possibility of Sykes getting sent off after his booking, and I also thought he would get sent off, which he did. There was a reckless air about him. I like Karl Robinson but he was a nob yesterday and if he had not had his head up his a**e he would have had the sense to sub Sykes. You do have five subs ffs. KR and his staff were very uncool yesterday. LJ kept out of it.
As for the free kick, it was a bad challenge and there were quite a few in the game. A feisty affair and as usual a tricky game. We took a quick free kick which was clever. The defender did not have a head injury, so no problem, and if you watch he was getting up then saw we had taken free kick and went down again. He was trying to cheat and let his team down, not the ref.
Ref wasn't great mind, but did nothing wrong there. Your problems were closer to home. What had KR been taking? Embarrassing.
Good luck with test of season and hopefully we don't play you again.

Ive a feeling Oxford will play Sunderland in the playoffs ..... and if that happens I doubt if KR will need to give much of a team talk , replaying the footage of a couple of choice moments from yesterdays encounter would be one hell of a motivation

 

[Sinner]

Ive a feeling Oxford will play Sunderland in the playoffs ..... and if that happens I doubt if KR will need to give much of a team talk , replaying the footage of a couple of choice moments from yesterdays encounter would be one hell of a motivation

God I hope not. Cant take it. I remember being second with about 6 games to go, then only won one more, go in play offs and lose in 94th minute. Traumatic. Next season on a great run, then faltered in last 4 games and season stopped, and were squeezed out of play offs. I hate play offs

 

[Sarge]

God I hope not. Cant take it. I remember being second with about 6 games to go, then only won one more, go in play offs and lose in 94th minute. Traumatic. Next season on a great run, then faltered in last 4 games and season stopped, and were squeezed out of play offs. I hate play offs

...... a bit like baked beans , history has a habit of repeating

 

[MC Yellow]

God I hope not. Cant take it. I remember being second with about 6 games to go, then only won one more, go in play offs and lose in 94th minute. Traumatic. Next season on a great run, then faltered in last 4 games and season stopped, and were squeezed out of play offs. I hate play offs

Great way to go up after a decent day out and a win at Wembley, but equally a horrible way to lose out.

I guess it is a matter of perspective.

If we can manage to squeeze a play off spot we’ll be delighted, but if you drop out of an auto spot at the last minute and get dragged into the playoff lottery you’d be quite rightly disappointed.