Manager/Coach Des Buckingham

Northernyellow said:
City Group (or whatever they are called) don't hand out jobs for a laugh. They look for the most talented coaches, which is why they picked Des. The 'local boy' angle is predictable and actually entirely irrelevant. He'll either turn out to be very good (which I think/hope he will) or not. Having said all that, I think we could well lose our next two L1 matches, and I wouldn't blame him at all. I thought we were starting to wobble over the last few games before Manning decided to cut & close. We were lucky to win at Orient- as others have said, we need a bit more 'nastiness' in the side, and we had a poor-ish October. I think we'll end up top 6-8 this season, which given the mess we were in last season is significant improvement.
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I think we will lose our next two, and I fear it could turn nasty, especially if we don't win at Reading too.

I personally worry if we're not in the Championship by the time the new stadium is built. It'll be packed out first game or two regardless, but if we're still in L1 (and if performances aren't great) we could we quickly end up playing in a brand new, half empty stadium - not great in any aspect for the club, but especially financially.

Think the aim has to be promotion in every season till 2026.
 
MustardYellow said:
I think we will lose our next two, and I fear it could turn nasty, especially if we don't win at Reading too.

I personally worry if we're not in the Championship by the time the new stadium is built. It'll be packed out first game or two regardless, but if we're still in L1 (and if performances aren't great) we could we quickly end up playing in a brand new, half empty stadium - not great in any aspect for the club, but especially financially.

Think the aim has to be promotion in every season till 2026.
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'it could turn nasty'? Among wankers, you mean?
 
werthersoriginal said:
'it could turn nasty'? Among wankers, you mean?
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Well, no - there's nothing wrong with wanting your club to do well and being frustrated when they don't, particularly after starting so well.

People often misdirect their anger in football. If things don't go great the next ~2 weeks then I don't think many will be directing it towards Des, I just think there'll be a general discontent which is probably natural among teams who start so well and drop off.

Just a month ago we were second, 5 points above third with a game in hand. If we do lose our next two, don't beat Reading and other results don't go our way, we could potentially be out of even the playoff places - to suggest being annoyed with that makes you a w****r is something I can't say I agree with!
 
MustardYellow said:
Well, no - there's nothing wrong with wanting your club to do well and being frustrated when they don't, particularly after starting so well.

People often misdirect their anger in football. If things don't go great the next ~2 weeks then I don't think many will be directing it towards Des, I just think there'll be a general discontent which is probably natural among teams who start so well and drop off.

Just a month ago we were second, 5 points above third with a game in hand. If we do lose our next two, don't beat Reading and other results don't go our way, we could potentially be out of even the playoff places - to suggest being annoyed with that makes you a w****r is something I can't say I agree with!
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Do you not think you are over reacting to one loss? We lost 5 games this season before Buckingham came in so its not like we were anywhere near unbeaten pre him.
 
MustardYellow said:
Well, no - there's nothing wrong with wanting your club to do well and being frustrated when they don't, particularly after starting so well.

People often misdirect their anger in football. If things don't go great the next ~2 weeks then I don't think many will be directing it towards Des, I just think there'll be a general discontent which is probably natural among teams who start so well and drop off.

Just a month ago we were second, 5 points above third with a game in hand. If we do lose our next two, don't beat Reading and other results don't go our way, we could potentially be out of even the playoff places - to suggest being annoyed with that makes you a w****r is something I can't say I agree with!
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Yeah I'd be disappointed but I was supportive of Appleton when he was having his bad start, and would support Des as long as I felt we were going in the right direction and there was potential to get it right. Overreacting and shouting doesn't make his job any easier.
 
If it so called turns nasty, I won't be blaming the manager, I'll be blaming Manning for dropping us in the S**t. Plus our form was dipping with him in charge, who's to say we wouldn't be in free fall with him ANYWAY .Des is one of our own ,& I'm prepared to give him 3 years in charge. It's called LOYALTY...
 
I think the fanbase is pretty forgiving in person - even when KR was plumbing the depths it was depressed rather than angry at games, the vitriol was reserved for the internet.

The only time I can remember finding it really toxic in recent years was during the Waddock/Lewis interregnum in 2014, there were some nasty scenes at a game we lost at Dagenham.
 
werthersoriginal said:
Yeah I'd be disappointed but I was supportive of Appleton when he was having his bad start, and would support Des as long as I felt we were going in the right direction and there was potential to get it right. Overreacting and shouting doesn't make his job any easier.
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If I recall we barely hung on against Bristol Rovers and Blackpool, and rescued a point against Wycombe. We've been on the right side of an awful lot of good luck in recent months and are perhaps in a false position in the league so I could forgive a brief dip in form as we adjust.

What I am keen not to see, however, is the style of football we employed against Cheltenham being rolled out in future games. I'm sure Des will find the right balance in coming weeks.
 
bashamwonderland said:
If I recall we barely hung on against Bristol Rovers and Blackpool, and rescued a point against Wycombe. We've been on the right side of an awful lot of good luck in recent months and are perhaps in a false position in the league so I could forgive a brief dip in form as we adjust.
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I had this conversation with my brother a few weeks ago, before Manning jumped ship. I don’t think we’ve lost a single game we should’ve drawn, or drawn a single game we should’ve won, but there are numerous examples (including the ones you’ve mentioned) where we walked away with points we probably didn’t deserve.

We have nicked a few points but we haven’t been robbed of any, IMO. Even in the Vale game, where we managed to draw level in the 92nd minute with ten men and chucked it away needlessly a few minutes later, we ultimately got what we deserved over the course of the game.
 
My word, a minority of posters on here and social media are embarrassing. Laying into Buckingham/his appt after one game. Do all clubs have fans like this? I mean even Tottenham fans wouldn't be smashing the manager this early in their tenure.
 
I really hope I'm wrong but I think we will get beat tonight. Win at Cheltenham and I think we could have handled a defeat tonight. Des would have been up and running and the pressure off. Lose tonight and any honeymoon is absolutely done, he will just become another Oxford United manager rather than the homecoming hero. Lose with another lacklustre, demotivated and inept performance like Saturday, followed by a grinning post match interview and questions, I think, will be raised after just two games. Not about his job obviously but perhaps whether the leap from Mumbai to L1 is going to take more time than expected and, in the process, derail our promotion bid.

Harsh ? Maybe, but it's the reality of football. I'm reasonably hopeful in the long run that he might be the man, I just haven't been convinced by a worrying first game and any interviews he's given - most certainly the post match one on Saturday. Win, lose or draw tonight hopefully we may see a bit of reaction and emotion from him - be it joy, anger, opinion etc. Right now, he's just a bit bland, nothing really interesting or ground breaking to say and making Manning look positively charismatic.
 
Scrongo said:
To be honest, being a Oxford fan for a long time, it's on the cards to get nothing, from tonight, & against Peterborough & Reading. Story of my life, but hey ho, I'd have it no other way, than being a premier League glory hunter...
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As many of you know I am actually a Palace fan. It's my daughter who is the huge Oxford Utd supporter and I absolutely love going to watch the yellows with her. I love Palace and the community around the club but I can tell you that @Scrongo is right. The Premier League is dull. Realistically three clubs can win the title and five clubs are likely relegation candidates. The rest you hope for a good cup run. Supporting Oxford Utd is much more exciting - look at the transformation in the last nine months, the rapport between players and fans, the opportunities of the new ground. League One football is passionate and exciting. If I could change one thing though it would be the standard of reffing.
 
werthersoriginal said:
'it could turn nasty'? Among wankers, you mean?
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It wont turn nasty and nor should it, that would be a crazy over reaction. It would be a more subdued frustration and maybe the beginning of a waning trust that Des is the right man. Look at the stick on social media that Rooney was getting after four consecutive defeats and taking a team flying high hurtling down the table. Rooney wasn't born in Birmingham but should Des being born in Oxford carry blind faith ? About 1 in 50 posts on their forums and other social media platforms were backing Rooney - that's a lot of w****** who weren't.

Perspective is needed. Des has only lost one, however utterly lamentable that loss was, and he's a way from emulating Rooney's start. I think people are just seeing tonight as an inevitable defeat and then a couple of tough fixtures where getting back on track wont be easy. Anyway, hopefully he can reverse his start and get a team on the field who will battle for him and the fans first and foremost.
 
holdsteady said:
Do you not think you are over reacting to one loss? We lost 5 games this season before Buckingham came in so its not like we were anywhere near unbeaten pre him.
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It's the manner of defeat as well as the defeat itself. Saturday was really, really bad against a team who have been woeful all season. Hard to see how we go from that to playing well enough to beat a team not only top of the league, but on a really good run of form.
 
If we lose the next few games ,who would you blame. Des, Manning, the Team ,the Board or all of them????
 
Eric Blair said:
As many of you know I am actually a Palace fan. It's my daughter who is the huge Oxford Utd supporter and I absolutely love going to watch the yellows with her. I love Palace and the community around the club but I can tell you that @Scrongo is right. The Premier League is dull. Realistically three clubs can win the title and five clubs are likely relegation candidates. The rest you hope for a good cup run. Supporting Oxford Utd is much more exciting - look at the transformation in the last nine months, the rapport between players and fans, the opportunities of the new ground. League One football is passionate and exciting. If I could change one thing though it would be the standard of reffing.
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I went to watch Everton a few years ago and the players came out for a warm up before the match - fans gave the obligatory round of applause to welcome them and started chanting.

...the players couldn't care less, and didn't acknowledge the crowd in any way.

On Saturday, I was close enough to be within touching distance of Liam Sercombe (a fan favourite back in 2016) as he took a corner for Cheltenham. I heard a few of our bell-ends give him some abuse, then heard a conversation with him and a fan where our fan was giving him a positive word, seemingly thanking him for his time with us. He responded quickly before taking the corner.

That's what separates EFL from PL. One is a club tournament, the other is an entertainment business. The best I could hope for for any Premier League club outside of the top 6 would be relegation to the Championship.
 
MustardYellow said:
It's the manner of defeat as well as the defeat itself. Saturday was really, really bad against a team who have been woeful all season. Hard to see how we go from that to playing well enough to beat a team not only top of the league, but on a really good run of form.
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Cheltenham are transformed since Clarke’s arrival. That’s not an opinion, the results show it.

We weren’t great and deserved to lose, but you paint a picture as grim as a Swindon slapper’s a**e.
 
MustardYellow said:
It's the manner of defeat as well as the defeat itself. Saturday was really, really bad against a team who have been woeful all season. Hard to see how we go from that to playing well enough to beat a team not only top of the league, but on a really good run of form.
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Or a team who were level with us in the form table before the new manager took over?
 
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