Manager/Coach Des Buckingham

He should stay to the end of the season but just stating facts ,it's not been very good .
 
Sheik djibouti said:
Gregg Leigh at left back was our top scorer through that period too. If that doesn't tell you that you have serious structural deficiencies in your squad and your ability to create and finish chances in your forwards, then I don't know what does🤷‍♂️
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Exactly this, and I was saying this at the time & have said again recently.

Yes we’ve signed a striker but players will take time to gel.

Goals have dried up as not enough is being contributed from midfield.

The fact you just said literally underpins what an imbalanced squad we have.
 
Bicester Yellow said:
Exactly this, and I was saying this at the time & have said again recently.

Yes we’ve signed a striker but players will take time to gel.

Goals have dried up as not enough is being contributed from midfield.

The fact you just said literally underpins what an imbalanced squad we have.
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And then add in out of form (McGuane, Rodrigues...and Harris previously) and injured players in key positions (especially Moore) then it should not be all that surprising or difficult to understand why we're currently concedeing more/seem less composed/make silly mistakes and are creating/scoring less at the other end.
 
Sheik djibouti said:
And then add in out of form (McGuane, Rodrigues...and Harris previously) and injured players in key positions (especially Moore) then it should not be all that surprising or difficult to understand why we're currently concedeing more/seem less composed/make silly mistakes and are creating/scoring less at the other end.
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So basically, we had a number of players who were performing well under Manning but are now performing poorly under Des.

I don't think that's the defence of Des you're making it out to be!
 
MustardYellow said:
So basically, we had a number of players who were performing well under Manning but are now performing poorly under Des.

I don't think that's the defence of Des you're making it out to be!
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And your persistent anti-Des rhetoric lacks the nuance to entertain the idea that it's really not that simple as to pin it all on him.
 
There's a lot more important issues going on at the club , than sacking the teams manager...
I want a football club in 2 years time , not getting another new manager.
Get your priorities right ,lads & Lasses...
 
Realistically, with the season we had last year, the wholesale changes over the summer and again when Manning left, and the quality of some of the other teams in the league, we were always likely to drop away somewhat. I always considered our quick start to be a buffer rather than something that would continue throughout the season.

The way we've found ourselves in 7th is obviously disappointing, but as we saw with some of last night's results and those in recent weeks, we are still in with a real shot of a play-off place with 11 games remaining. Those final two spots are 100% up for grabs.

And just as quickly as we saw our results fall away earlier in the season, a bit of skill or a bit of luck could turn the tide in our favour again.

I'm a big believer in people controlling the things they can control.

Can we control whether Des is in the job or not come April? No.

Can we control whether Tim Williams is a plonker? No.

Can we control our reactions as a fanbase to conceding a goal, misplacing a pass, or buggering up a golden opportunity? Yes, we can.

We can all come up with reasons why things haven't gone well the last few months, but the only thing we have any control over is ourselves and how we carry ourselves at matches and in places like here, which very quickly becomes a doom spiral between matches, and I'm sure influences the way some fans feel on a match day.

Let's leave the 'I told you so's and autopsies until the end of the season, and do our best to lift the club and the players for a big final push, because - Tim, Des, Grant, Sam Long, everything and everyone else aside - it's our bloody football club, and sometimes the best thing we can do is give it our full-blooded support whether we actually feel it deserves it or not.
 
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Sheik djibouti said:
Ah, but what if the players don't want to play for him because they don't react well/agree with his methods - what then?

That is supposedly the case with Des.....isn't it?
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Nothing supposedly about it. It’s true 3 I know of!

Enough about them, we talking about Pearson, who has a vast amount of EFL experience, and managed mostly at the next level. He would command respect.

You can say about players not agreeing with a managers methods all the time, about any club.

The problem here, is we have a manager that has managed/Coached at a poor level. You see similar action at the pitches near blackbird Leys bridge on a Sunday morning.
 
Sheik djibouti said:
And your persistent anti-Des rhetoric lacks the nuance to entertain the idea that it's really not that simple as to pin it all on him.
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We had a manager who had us 2nd averaging 2.13 PPG (usually enough for automatic promotion). He left, the new manager comes in, 4 months later we're 7th playing woeful football and averaging 1.16 PPG (which last season would've had us 18th). Some 'nuance' to that is that other than Harris, every player has regressed under said new manager.

As I said in a pervious post, it's excuse after excuse. It's gone from give him a few games to settle, to wait till the injured players are back, to give him a transfer window, and now it's the staffs fault (even though other than an assistant most roles have been filled).

Unless the suggestion is that us winning games under Manning was a fluke, then it feels like defending the indefensible. Even if you say we were 'overperforming' under Manning, we're now significantly underperforming under Des.

Having a team 'overperforming' is the sign of a good manager, right? So what do we call managers who have a team underperforming?
 
Foley said:
Yes in those days of course, thete was no internet, so the vociferous few were heard of a lot less!
Jim Smith would have had a lot of questioning here. Not only did he blow a good position, but he sold Keith Cassells ( a good striker), brought Trevor Hebberd in as a striker ( telling us he would score a load of goals), and then converted him from a striker to a CM player!
At the end of the first part of the season 20% After 3 matches, at least 40% on here would have wanted him fired.
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Fixed that for you.
 
Leysboy said:
Nothing supposedly about it. It’s true 3 I know of!
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The Oxford first team are paid very well.
If you are suggesting that 3 of the first team are telling all and sundry, that they don't want to play for a particular manager, I find that hard to believe.
If that is true, then I think that is a disgrace. I seriously hope that they get out of our club at the end of the season.
Of course some players prefer one manager over another- Thorniley for example wouldn't be expected to be happy. But to suggest that they don't want to play for a manage They should be trying as hard as possible under all managers.
 
Out of interest, can one of the stato's confirm:

- Our xG under Manning vs our actual goals scored
- Our xGA under Manning vs actual goals conceded

- Our xG under Des vs our actual goals scored
- Our xGA under Des vs actual goals conceded

Thank you!
 
Symp59 said:
Absolutely agree with alot of what your saying, but what do you you think of the performances ,,Carlisle was good ,Charlton was good the odd half's have been good but we have been shocking in so many .Let's hope with Moore back ,and more players getting fitter with a whole week on the practice ground Saturday we put up a good performance, we all want Des to do well. But it's been a disaster so far and nobody can say it hasn't.
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I don't think Carlisle was particularly good, it was patchy but we took our chances.
Charlton was pretty even I thought but Smyth scored a worldie to win it!!
Burton at home has been the only convincing performance for me since Des has taken over.
 
Oufcrealist said:
I don't think Carlisle was particularly good, it was patchy but we took our chances.
Charlton was pretty even I thought but Smyth scored a worldie to win it!!
Burton at home has been the only convincing performance for me since Des has taken over.
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Agree with all of this. I am very much one of the people who think Des should be given a proper summer to get his squad together and we shouldn’t be considering sacking him at all right now - but I am absolutely of the opinion that we’ve played poorly for pretty much all of his tenure (even in the victories).

Shrewsbury was his best effort. Against Northampton and Portsmouth more recently I thought we were largely solid and let ourselves down with some errors at key moments. Other than that there have been a few good 30 minute periods - not even halves - but that’s it. We finished strongly (after a poor first hour) at Wycombe. We were good for 30 minutes against Derby. Controlled a pretty low quality second half at Carlisle. Gave it a good crack against Bolton but finished noticeably second best. Even the Wigan game we got the bounce of the ball on a few of our goals and were probably quite flattered by the scoreline. Considering how we’ve hung onto the Top 6 it’s actually quite unbelievable how poor we’ve been since November.

I’m not expecting to make the playoffs after the last 2 results - but they are still a possibility. Whether that happens or not I do want to see us finish the season delivering much better performances. That Orient performance was abject. On the assumption that we’re getting nothing from Bolton and Pompey away, the home game against Cheltenham is a MASSIVE fixture (as it was last season ironically).
 
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