YellowTaxi
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You’re not a good guy. Not only do you support massive tax avoidance, you appear to be saying avoiding taxes is the same as failing to resist Nazi mass murder.
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The comment of a man who believes there’s something heroic about Jacob Rees Mogg avoiding taxes.
They will never consider you their equal no matter how hard you lick that boot
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I can't meaningfully respond to comments which are this detached from the reality of what I originally said. Your two comments above are bizarre - I'm not sure if you're quite young in reality or if there's something else going on, but yeah I can't really help you with your misunderstanding.
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That would be quite funny if it wasnt so sad. You are the only poster on this forum that tried to defend Corbyn and the Labour Party on anti semitism. Anti semitism is now "middle of the road" is it?
Do you consider the people on this forum who have differing views to you are also people who avoid paying taxes?
@YT , you gain zero credibility because every argument you present is “anti conservative“. You don't see the bigger picture.
Tax avoidance (legal) is not a new thing, neither is tax evasion (illegal). Regardless of who is in government this has always been around.
Ever heard of the daylight robbery tax, when tax was applied to the number of windows a property had?.. simple tax avoidance was to just brick up the windows.... No more daylight.
The fact that you are blinkered in your political stance does you no favours. You will never ever criticise anything “labour” unless it is through gritted teeth,
I am absolutely sure that had the current situation we find ourselves in happened during a Labour government your wrath on here would have been muted, even non existent.
In fact, I would go as far to say that you would have probably been showing strong support for the government, telling us all how this is such a difficult situation to deal with and that the number of deaths, whilst tragic, would have been a lot worse under a conservative government.
You post pages and pages of political “anti conservative“ crap on here and then post one message (a thread you started) about i-follow cutting out.
The scepticism in me would suggest that you were not even on i-follow but posted this to in some way gain some credibility that you do actually watch Oxford United. Let’s face it, this ruse wouldn’t have been too much of a gamble given how many people experience similar problems with i-follow.
Tax avoidance (legal) is not a new thing, neither is tax evasion (illegal). Regardless of who is in government this has always been around.
Ever heard of the daylight robbery tax, when tax was applied to the number of windows a property had?.. simple tax avoidance was to just brick up the windows.... No more daylight.
The fact that you are blinkered in your political stance does you no favours. You will never ever criticise anything “labour” unless it is through gritted teeth,
I am absolutely sure that had the current situation we find ourselves in happened during a Labour government your wrath on here would have been muted, even non existent.
In fact, I would go as far to say that you would have probably been showing strong support for the government, telling us all how this is such a difficult situation to deal with and that the number of deaths, whilst tragic, would have been a lot worse under a conservative government.
You post pages and pages of political “anti conservative“ crap on here and then post one message (a thread you started) about i-follow cutting out.
The scepticism in me would suggest that you were not even on i-follow but posted this to in some way gain some credibility that you do actually watch Oxford United. Let’s face it, this ruse wouldn’t have been too much of a gamble given how many people experience similar problems with i-follow.
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I imagine the vast majority of us are taxed on our income and pay the tax due, some of us may complain occasionally on but recognise we are contributing to the Public good
Im sure most of us also disagree with tjostier who try to normalise large scale tax avoidance by comparing those who wouldn’t indulge to be a level of exceptional moral behaviour on a par with hiding Jews from the Nazis.
Im sure most of us also disagree with tjostier who try to normalise large scale tax avoidance by comparing those who wouldn’t indulge to be a level of exceptional moral behaviour on a par with hiding Jews from the Nazis.
The read this @YT. This is just to demonstrate my point that tax avoidance isn’t just for JRM and his chums.
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A Brief History Of Labour Tax Avoidance - The Backbencher
Labour want to turn the latest tax avoidance headlines into a moral issue - but they should get their own house in order first, writes Lee Jenkins. If the narrative of some is to be believed the Tories have a near monopoly on tax avoidance. Yet not to be outdone by their opponents on the
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Calling arguments you disagree with „crap“ isn’t not the zinger you think it is-
I’d be supportive of any government of any political colour that has handled the situation well.
The Taiwanese government like us an island but considerably closer to China has seen a total of 7 ( SEVEN) deaths.
The Vietnamese Singaporean Irish Australian and New Zealand governments have all handled the situation pretty well. That includes politicians of all shades from Communist to Conservative.
This government has handled it exceptionally badly. Problems include contradictory messaging, lateness to lockdown, preferring flashy PR gestures to solving the problems, supporting those who openly broke the guidance, failure to use existing local infrastucture , ignoring or contradicting scientific advice, forcing universities to stay open, and using the crisis as an opportunity for large scale corruption.
sorry that you and others appear unable to handle critical or dissenting views.
I’d be supportive of any government of any political colour that has handled the situation well.
The Taiwanese government like us an island but considerably closer to China has seen a total of 7 ( SEVEN) deaths.
The Vietnamese Singaporean Irish Australian and New Zealand governments have all handled the situation pretty well. That includes politicians of all shades from Communist to Conservative.
This government has handled it exceptionally badly. Problems include contradictory messaging, lateness to lockdown, preferring flashy PR gestures to solving the problems, supporting those who openly broke the guidance, failure to use existing local infrastucture , ignoring or contradicting scientific advice, forcing universities to stay open, and using the crisis as an opportunity for large scale corruption.
sorry that you and others appear unable to handle critical or dissenting views.
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The vast majority of the population have our tax taken from our wages every month.
Yes there's a comparatively small amount of tax avoidance by some Labour supporters- which i would condemn. Suggesting they are all at it distracts from the scale of tax avoidance going on, or who is at it.The read this @YT. This is just to demonstrate my point that tax avoidance isn’t just for JRM and his chums.
A Brief History Of Labour Tax Avoidance - The Backbencher
Labour want to turn the latest tax avoidance headlines into a moral issue - but they should get their own house in order first, writes Lee Jenkins. If the narrative of some is to be believed the Tories have a near monopoly on tax avoidance. Yet not to be outdone by their opponents on the
The vast majority of the population have our tax taken from our wages every month.
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Just observing here, MC, but you seem to be falling into the trap of labelling YT left wing and anti conservative, and then digging up some behaviour from Labour as if he would support it, that he would also no doubt be happy to criticise.The read this @YT. This is just to demonstrate my point that tax avoidance isn’t just for JRM and his chums.
A Brief History Of Labour Tax Avoidance - The Backbencher
Labour want to turn the latest tax avoidance headlines into a moral issue - but they should get their own house in order first, writes Lee Jenkins. If the narrative of some is to be believed the Tories have a near monopoly on tax avoidance. Yet not to be outdone by their opponents on the
There’s a great bit in Foootball Against the Enemy by Simon Kuiper, that points out how British politics works just like British football, so it’s not surprising that the same approach appears in political discussion on this football forum.
I’ve spent the last week trying to teach my 12 year old that it’s ok to say that Maradona was a great footballer, even though he was an Argie (hand of god, falklands etc) and a substance abuser with crime syndicate links. I’d struggle to say the same about a Swindon player though.
With politics, it doesn’t matter what team you’re on, but what you stand and vote for and your actions. If someone who is a self-declared socialist, but acts with selfish money-grabbing principles I’d be happy to criticise them.
No need to apologise, thanks.
Many on here have views that differ to mine but they just don’t spout on and on and on about it following some sort of political agenda like you.
Your views are you own and not all I disagree with, but when you go on and on it just becomes incessant crap.
I think YT‘s comment saying there is a comparatively small amount tax avoidance by a small number of labour MP’s says it all Chuckbert.
An article that he would rip to shreds if it was about JRM and his chums.
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Maybe you should listen and evaluate the argument on its merits. You should be awae how our country is now seen around the world. The British press is very insular and very supportive of the current government.
Here's a cartoon from New Zealand.
and here's one from France
Here's a cartoon from New Zealand.
and here's one from France
Okay a very fair sum up chuckbert.
I think the point about a Swindon player is very relevant also. It sort of sums up that some people find it difficult to see beyond the player (the political party).
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What's factually incorrect about what i've said -compared to the billions in inheritance tax avoided by the Duke of Westminster , or the amounts Jim Ratcliffe or Philip Green avoided paying by moving to Monaco the sums mentioned in that article (from an anti tax magazine, incidentally ) are comparatively small.
Yeah they hate us... always have.
Ever sat through the boredom of a Eurovision Song Contest
Royaume-Uni nil point
I am sure they will miss us if we stop sending thousands of holiday makers to Europe each year and stop buying their BMW‘s Porsche’s and Audi‘s
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Sorry my mistake... I thought you had a problem with tax avoidance per say.
I didn’t realise that its okay if it’s small amounts from a small number... It’s just the big numbers that matter?
You and chuckbert missed my point completely I think.
You may well condemn this sort of thing from both sides.. BUT you have never ever shown that balance of perspective on here... It is always Conservative bashing, hence the inclination to gauge your political standing.
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Do you acknowledge that my criticism of the way the British government has handled the pandemic is not based on their ideology but their competence. or are you unable to show that balance of persepctive?
I have no issue with that YT.
If you want to go back over my posts I think you will see that in the early days I was prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt as they faced this rapid and evolving situation, but as time passed and the level information became available, I believe it has become an utter mess.
Are you prepared to acknowledge that there has also been some good done by the government?
