Manager/Coach KREXIT: The 'Robbo Out' thread.

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It’s interesting that fans are lapping up how Mous comes across on the 5 minute fans forum yet he says pretty much exactly what Robinson says.

He blames injuries, says we have been unlucky and says we just need take our chances.

If that was Robinson saying it there would be up roar.
Disagree with that interpretation, and how people say things certainly does matter as much as what people say. Of course it does.

I think it’s equally interesting that people being positive about a member of staff can provoke such negativity from others. People talk about Robinson being dammed if he does, damned if he doesn’t, but it seems that isn’t exclusive to him. Be positive, but only in very specific ways.

Further proof in my opinion that the current situation, and indeed the current incumbent, is too polarising to carry on.
 
Disagree with that interpretation, and how people say things certainly does matter as much as what people say. Of course it does.

I think it’s equally interesting that people being positive about a member of staff can provoke such negativity from others. People talk about Robinson being dammed if he does, damned if he doesn’t, but it seems that isn’t exclusive to him. Be positive, but only in very specific ways.

Further proof in my opinion that the current situation, and indeed the current incumbent, is too polarising to carry on.
My point wasn’t to be negative towards Mous. I actually think Mous is an excellent addition to the club and would happily see him take over as manager at some point or at least a number 2.

My point was to point out that he says the same things as Robinson does but because it isn’t Robinson people don’t jump on it.
 
My point wasn’t to be negative towards Mous. I actually think Mous is an excellent addition to the club and would happily see him take over as manager at some point or at least a number 2.

My point was to point out that he says the same things as Robinson does but because it isn’t Robinson people don’t jump on it.
He just says them in a calm and measured way.
 
My point wasn’t to be negative towards Mous. I actually think Mous is an excellent addition to the club and would happily see him take over as manager at some point or at least a number 2.

My point was to point out that he says the same things as Robinson does but because it isn’t Robinson people don’t jump on it.
The difference is that John Mousinho will give you his opinion in a calm and simple manner, whether you agree with what he says or not is another matter. He might say “I think that injuries haven’t helped at times” but he will also move on pretty swiftly. He will make that a small part of his view rather then dwelling on it or making it the centrepiece. Karl Robinson will spend two straight minutes desperately telling you that the injury situation is utterly unheard of, that nobody could cope any better in such disastrous circumstances, that he’s never known anything like it, that it’s a freak, that it’s killing him, and then fly into a rant about how much people care and how much it hurts.

Is that saying the same thing? I mean… I guess. Sort of. Ish. But… not really. It’s a bit like seeing someone sniff or clear their throat while pouring a coffee and going “I think I’ve got a cold coming on”, while someone else sprawls themselves across their desk, moaning and groaning as though they’re at death’s door. People can say that others would go mad if Robinson said the same thing, but he wouldn’t to begin with. That’s kind of the point.

Like I say, if people being positive can provoke a negative response, it’s a pretty strong sign that something is wrong.
 

The difference is that John Mousinho will give you his opinion in a calm and simple manner, whether you agree with what he says or not is another matter. He might say “I think that injuries haven’t helped at times” but he will also move on pretty swiftly. He will make that a small part of his view rather then dwelling on it or making it the centrepiece. Karl Robinson will spend two straight minutes desperately telling you that the injury situation is utterly unheard of, that nobody could cope any better in such disastrous circumstances, that he’s never known anything like it, that it’s a freak, that it’s killing him, and then fly into a rant about how much people care and how much it hurts.

Is that saying the same thing? I mean… I guess. Sort of. Ish. But… not really. It’s a bit like seeing someone sniff or clear their throat while pouring a coffee and going “I think I’ve got a cold coming on”, while someone else sprawls themselves across their desk, moaning and groaning as though they’re at death’s door. People can say that others would go mad if Robinson said the same thing, but he wouldn’t to begin with. That’s kind of the point.

Like I say, if people being positive can provoke a negative response, it’s a pretty strong sign that something is wrong.
A bit like myself and Ryan.
 
My point wasn’t to be negative towards Mous. I actually think Mous is an excellent addition to the club and would happily see him take over as manager at some point or at least a number 2.

My point was to point out that he says the same things as Robinson does but because it isn’t Robinson people don’t jump on it.
That surely is, at least in part, because KR as manager has to take responsibility for the current situation much more than Mous, who anyway has no option other than to support the manager? So given that the message is going to be very similar, the difference is in how it is delivered - and in the fact that (as far as I know) Mous was not responsible for attracting players or building a squad means that one of the major bones of contention and one of the reasons that we are where we are cannot be attributed to him. So people are bound to be better disposed to him.
 
We talk about a proper fans forum to ask the searching questions, but would we? I was at the AGM and I’m sure many of us wanted to challenge the disastrous recruitment but Robinson sat there like a huge brooding presence. Nobody fancied it.
 
Let's be honest, it is extremely unlikely that Mous is saying what he truly believes, Karl is still his boss at the end of the day. I'm sure he's in complete agreement that this isn't the best team we've ever assembled as an example.
 
Scrongo

We have Prime Ministers Questions every Wednesday,have you ever heard a questioned being answered when asked by the opposition.
Johnson was a past master of waffle and deflection and never apologised

No that’s what you’d get here

So first question to KR could be You have taken the club as far as you can it must be time for you to go?
Youd get waffle about unfinished business and the one that they can all get away with is I can’t go into the internal affairs of the club
Haha I know what you mean, but we're supposed to be on the same team. Mind you in fighting is usually the he biggest problems.
 
1 End of Season and 1 Pre-Season? So one end of May, then one beginning of August, when nothing has really occurred in between? I agree with the gist of your post, but 2 is probably right, drop the pre-season one though.
 
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Hardly weird, a fair few on here seem to jump on everything and anything they can to justify their position when most people just don't care. Have your opinion but you don't have to twist every little thing to fit your argument...that applies to KR in and out
You need to look a little closer to home, when it comea to spinning the facts for spin purpose.
Simply ask yourself has the season bewn a roaring success so far?
Then ask yourself wht not?
Transfer window?
Crocks brought in?
Poor Tactics?
lack of accountability?
Poor football on the pitch?
 
I agree that Mous has always presented himself as a calm, intelligent and well spoken player, and I've no doubt that he'll take those characteristics into his coaching/management career. But I think he can be calm simply because he knows that the buck doesn't stop with him.

If he were manager at this stage, and had been part of the recruitment process in the summer and had led us to this league position, lets not kid ourselves to think that he wouldn’t be getting it from a number of posters on here. "He's too inexperienced" "He's too nice to be a manager" "Where's his passion?"

The fact is that football and those involved in it are nearly always judged on nothing more than results. If we were unbeaten at the top of the league, no one would care about what Robinson said before or after games. And no one would care how nice Mous is if he was in charge of a club playing rubbish at the bottom of the league.
 
It’s interesting that fans are lapping up how Mous comes across on the 5 minute fans forum yet he says pretty much exactly what Robinson says.

He blames injuries, says we have been unlucky and says we just need take our chances.

If that was Robinson saying it there would be up roar.

Mousinho is so much more articulate than Robinson.

I enjoy listening to him because you don’t have to read between the lines, he just communicates more clearly and concisely than Robinson.
 
Mousinho is so much more articulate than Robinson.

I enjoy listening to him because you don’t have to read between the lines, he just communicates more clearly and concisely than Robinson.

That’s always been the case. We’ve been happy to ignore Karl & his ramblings the last few years as he’s got results.

But since the whole music too loud fiasco at plymouth last season. He’s got more extreme every week to the point he’s crying after a draw at Pompey.
 
The more read this thread, the more I'm sure that some of its contributors favour the manager over the club. The cult is so strong.

When you find the strength to leave, we're here for you 🤗
 
If we were unbeaten at the top of the league, no one would care about what Robinson said before or after games.
That's an extreme (and very desirable!) 'if' :)

I think it does have to be said that many posters have made comments about post match interviews specifically, even when we have been in a better position than we are now!

But you are right, it is particularly galling *right now* to have just watched us play poorly and then for him to come out and try to claim we have just watched an excellent performance!
 
The more read this thread, the more I'm sure that some of its contributors favour the manager over the club. The cult is so strong.

When you find the strength to leave, we're here for you 🤗

The reverse is true as well.

Some have such a dislike for Robinson they'll accept losing games to get rid of him.
 
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