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This government also made Paula Vennels an executive board member of the Cabinet Office in February 2019. A post she held for 13 months and shortly after she received her CBE in the 2019 New Year's Honours list.
 
Yes. they vote in a board to run the business. What point are you trying to make?

Thanks, I really do appreciate the underline.

I’ll assume you are being deliberately obtuse regarding the point I was trying to make, or you really do fail to see any element of culpability (no matter how small) about a state owned, public owned, government owned company (call it what you will) where there has been inaction regarding the use of powers to remove an incompetent board of directors for poor corporate governance resulting in the scandal that unfolded.
 
I see the results of the latest combined Daily Telegraph/Yougov poll have been released. It is a massive one by normal standards in that it encompasses all bar the 18 NI constituencies and covered responses 14,000 people as opposed to the normal c2000 respondents. Based on this the results of a GE tomorrow would be as follows:

Labour: 385 MPs
Conservative: 169
Lib Dem: 48
Plaid Cymru: 3
Green: 1

It's only 1 poll, there's a long, long way to go to election day and no poll is ever 100% accurate, but still . . . that's John Major 1997 bloodbath territory.

And while the margins may tighten, they might also increase. Not impossible given the governments current performance and recent track record. It might be wise for Rishi to "take the L" (as the kids would say) right now, before it gets worse . . . .
I do think Labour will win the next election, but not by as much as the polls predict.

Closer to the election, the Tories will bring out the faux 'hard on immigration' mantra and the 'hard on crime' BS. They do nothing to properly curb immigration, and there's no evidence any of their recent 'hard on crime' nonsense does anything to reduce potential offending or reoffending. Unfortunately though, the general public are too angry and emotional to care about any of that.
 
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Thanks, I really do appreciate the underline.

I’ll assume you are being deliberately obtuse regarding the point I was trying to make, or you really do fail to see any element of culpability (no matter how small) about a state owned, public owned, government owned company (call it what you will) where there has been inaction regarding the use of powers to remove an incompetent board of directors for poor corporate governance resulting in the scandal that unfolded.

Hence why I said....
The problem was Fujitsu and/or The Post Office didn't admit to/resolve the bugs and both appear to have told blatant lies to individual MPs, parliament and the courts. How people at Fujitsu and The Post Office aren't behind bars God only knows! If you want to make it political then focus on the actions/inactions of individuals once the truth came out.
....maybe. Oh and I've underlined it as you don't seem to read what I actual write! 😡
 
Hence why I said....

The problem was Fujitsu and/or The Post Office didn't admit to/resolve the bugs and both appear to have told blatant lies to individual MPs, parliament and the courts. How people at Fujitsu and The Post Office aren't behind bars God only knows! If you want to make it political then focus on the actions/inactions of individuals once the truth came out.

....maybe. Oh and I've underlined it as you don't seem to read what I actual write! 😡

They hold the shares, they don't run the business. There is a difference.

No idea what your point above was then??

It seems we were agreeing in the first place. The fact that there is a difference was moot.
 
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Well consider my flabber gasted.
Indeed....I mean nobody say this coming did they.

I had to chuckle as well when Rishi challenged the Lords to abide by "the will of the people" and push the Rwanda Bill through.

Would that be the same "will of the people" that you called upon to become Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Rishi....or was that something different :ROFLMAO:
 
I do think Labour will win the next election, but not by as much as the polls predict.

Closer to the election, the Tories will bring out the faux 'hard on immigration' mantra and the 'hard on crime' BS. They do nothing to properly curb immigration, and there's no evidence any of their recent 'hard on crime' nonsense does anything to reduce potential offending or reoffending. Unfortunately though, the general public are too angry and emotional to care about any of that.
Exactly why I won't be voting for them, now or ever again. A decade of broken promises and acting contrary to their core ideology, pushing people further to the right, because they aren't being listened to.

This is just the polar opposite of what will happen when Labour win. They won't nationalise steel or railways, or do any of the "core ideology" stuff they should be doing. Instead they'll invest in a few low level trade colleges in Port Talbot and should about some sort of community regeneration fund.

Just vote extreme (one way or the other) until they listen.
 
Well.......... that comes at a cost..........


Can`t have it both ways.................

Did the Govt make a target for Port Talbot?

It is awful for the area but this has been on the cards for a while.

Doesn't change the rivers/sea are full of s**t etc etc and the Govt are falling at their own targets as well as legally required ones.

And who is trying to have it both ways?
 
Did the Govt make a target for Port Talbot?

It is awful for the area but this has been on the cards for a while.

Doesn't change the rivers/sea are full of s**t etc etc and the Govt are falling at their own targets as well as legally required ones.

And who is trying to have it both ways?

Shutting the furnaces reduces the UK`s emissions by about 2% or the like.

But cost`s thousands of jobs.

And its costing Tata £1m a day in losses.

As for waste water its never going to be fixed quickly as we are still reliant on a Victorian sewage network that you could blame the last 124 years of government for..
 
Shutting the furnaces reduces the UK`s emissions by about 2% or the like.

But cost`s thousands of jobs.

And its costing Tata £1m a day in losses.

As for waste water its never going to be fixed quickly as we are still reliant on a Victorian sewage network that you could blame the last 124 years of government for..

Most water companies aren't doing much fixing at all considering a fair few haven't fully spent their budget for such things. The Tories have had 14 years to get things going in the right direction in terms of repairing water infrastructure but it has got considerably worse.

Whichever way it is looked at only hitting 4 targets is very poor especially when the Watchdog hasn't ruled out legal action.
 
As for waste water its never going to be fixed quickly as we are still reliant on a Victorian sewage network that you could blame the last 124 years of government for..
The justification for selling the water industry on the cheap was because the infrastructure needed investing in. The industry didn't keep its part of the bargain. It cut and ran with the cash knowing that in a worse case scenario the public purse would have to pick up the tab. Criminal activity if the rules were written in a way to catch such thieves.
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The justification for selling the water industry on the cheap was because the infrastructure needed investing in. The industry didn't keep its part of the bargain. It cut and ran with the cash knowing that in a worse case scenario the public purse would have to pick up the tab. Criminal activity if the rules were written in a way to catch such thieves.
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If you look hard enough I bet the contracts had more holes & escape clauses than a Swiss cheese.

Remember it was Mrs T that sold them and a subsequent decade of Labour never changed it or done anything about it.....
 
BBC News - Why Conservative divisions are back on display https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68077734

Oh dear. Tories in open revolt... again...a week after the last open revolt, and after their election strategist explained to them that divided parties fall and it was "time to get serious".

Mind you, maybe Rishi is OK as I wouldn't have much confidence in any former Liz Truss cabinet member and their ability to count.

Try this link. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68077734

Just another grey suit voicing an opinion and/or manoeuvring for someone else.

Three letter slogan for him - Bring. Back. Boris. :ROFLMAO:
 
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