Manager/Coach Des Buckingham

[Northstandboy]

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[joshua]

No to all of it

5 of us are not renewing END OF

 

[ECYellow]

When did this get accepted as fact?

I'm curious - @Leysboy (and others) were widely ridiculed for suggesting players had given up on the manager a few weeks back (when the situation on pitch was less problematic and those doing the ridiculing were still promoting a togetherness).

But now that the manager is really up against it and we can all see further drop in performance, these very same intimations are now accepted at face value - by the same people who ridiculed and dismissed them previously.

It looks like they've now become a useful deflection to any criticism of the manager...

No, i think that if you trawl back through various matchday threads, dating back to last calendar year, people were questioning the contributions of MM and RR in particular.

Can you tell me the last (positively) influential game that either MM or RR had? Is there down turn in form all on the Manager? IMON it would be incredibly naïve to think it was.

 

[dickwalton1964]

When did this get accepted as fact?

I'm curious - @Leysboy (and others) were widely ridiculed for suggesting players had given up on the manager a few weeks back (when the situation on pitch was less problematic and those doing the ridiculing were still promoting a togetherness).

But now that the manager is really up against it and we can all see further drop in performance, these very same intimations are now accepted at face value - by the same people who ridiculed and dismissed them previously.

It looks like they've now become a useful deflection to any criticism of the manager...

This is true. When else has anyone ever believed such tenuous and unsubstantiated tittle tattle on here ? For two players who have supposedly given it up they must be doing something amazing on the training field to get selected. If they've given up on Des do they just give up on match days when fans and potential suitors are watching, yet give everything in training the other 5 days a week to warrant Des selecting them ? Nothing adds up here and, as you say, it's little more than a deflection tactic.

 

[Reynolds97]

Des needs three things:

1. More time
2. More money
3. More respect

The Des bashers can go and support Knobinson's Salford City if they miss his style of management so much. They've got absolutely no clue when it comes to football management - some of us who have managed football teams know how hard it is to come on board and deliver immediate change.

What like Nathan Jones has done at Charlton? Clueless if you think Des can be successful here. The players think he is clueless as do majority of fans.

 

[ECYellow]

5 of us are not renewing END OF

Fair play. Good for you.

Out of interest, is that purely down to the Manager? If so, what made you renew in KR's last year, when it was widely acknowledged that he was far too close to the women's team (cough), had a direct connection to an agency whereby an awful lot of our players were signed from and performances were on the slide - not to mention his dismantling of players like Jodi Jones and Dan Agyei?

Without wishing to go over old ground, it was clear that he was bringing the football club into disrepute.

My point being, if your morale compass for renewing is at breaking point after 20 or so games with Des in charge, what gave you the inclination to support a manager like Karl Robinson?

 

[joshua]

I’m sorry but I just don’t get this kind of attitude. Fair play, if financially you cannot afford to renew or if other commitments mean that you will not get to enough games to
make it financially viable.
However, this ultimatum style “you’d best make a change, or else” attitude is something that I struggle to get on board with. Do you honestly think the club are going to take any notice of Joshua on an online forum?

Ultimately, you’ll either decide to support Oxford United FC or you won’t. If you do then great. If you don’t and it’s purely down to who the manager is, then I think that is more reflective of you and your other 4, rather than the club trying to show some loyalty and support to the man in charge. All about opinions I guess.

Where in my post does it say I’m not supporting OUFC I said 5 of us will not be renewing our season tickets and I personally will be picking my games be it 15 games or 2 games that will be my choice throughout the season

 

[CCYellow]

When did this get accepted as fact?

I'm curious - @Leysboy (and others) were widely ridiculed for suggesting players had given up on the manager a few weeks back (when the situation on pitch was less problematic and those doing the ridiculing were still promoting a togetherness).

But now that the manager is really up against it and we can all see further drop in performance, these very same intimations are now accepted at face value - by the same people who ridiculed and dismissed them previously.

It looks like they've now become a useful deflection to any criticism of the manager...

I think you'll find that Leysboy was (laregely) ridiculed for not naming the players, but continuously banging on about it.

Often happens to people desperate to want to seem ITK, regardless what side they're on.

 

[dickwalton1964]

No, i think that if you trawl back through various matchday threads, dating back to last calendar year, people were questioning the contributions of MM and RR in particular.

Can you tell me the last (positively) influential game that either MM or RR had? Is there down turn in form all on the Manager? IMON it would be incredibly naïve to think it was.

If they've thrown it in and want out then do you really give up on a match day with the world watching, but not give up on training days in front of just Des ? If they've jacked it in then surely their motivation will be at it's lowest ebb, Monday to Friday, on a blustery field in Horspath and not in front of 20,000 at Portsmouth,15,000 at Bolton or 10,000 at the Kassam. Des is still selecting them, isn't this clear enough evidence that they're putting in a shift in training to warrant selection and come match day are just victims of a shambolic game plan ?

 

[ECYellow]

Where in my post does it say I’m not supporting OUFC I said 5 of us will not be renewing our season tickets and I personally will be picking my games be it 15 games or 2 games that will be my choice throughout the season

Yes, my mistake.

What made you support OUFC sufficiently to buy a ST in KR's last season, when we knew what was happening behind the scenes, but you won't be supporting the manager and players this time around? Your posts insinuated that it is due to the manager...yet you've said that you've had a ST for 20 years, and so in that time have supported the final year under a bloke that was completely undermining the football club that you support.

Can't understand it, personally.

 

[MustardYellow]

Logically, if we don't win tomorrow you'd think time is almost up.

However, there's no way Des gets sacked. We could lose every game remaining an he still wouldn't. The owners have put too much on the line.

We (reportedly) spent more bringing Des in than we've paid for any player ever. He doesn't go after 5 months.

 

[Steve Gilbert]

When did this get accepted as fact?

I'm curious - @Leysboy (and others) were widely ridiculed for suggesting players had given up on the manager a few weeks back (when the situation on pitch was less problematic and those doing the ridiculing were still promoting a togetherness).

But now that the manager is really up against it and we can all see further drop in performance, these very same intimations are now accepted at face value - by the same people who ridiculed and dismissed them previously.

It looks like they've now become a useful deflection to any criticism of the manager...

He got ridiculed for not naming the players.
He has since named the 3 players and with that, those 3 players will get rightly dogs abuse for showing so much disrespect to the club.
Some fan bases would be booing these 3 everytime they touched the ball on Saturday but I can’t see that happening with out fans.

Unless @Leysboy now wants to say he made a mistake and they haven’t down tools then surely we take it as the truth because why else would someone openly name the players?

 

[dickwalton1964]

He got ridiculed for not naming the players.
He has since named the 3 players and with that, those 3 players will get rightly dogs abuse for showing so much disrespect to the club.
Some fan bases would be booing these 3 everytime they touched the ball on Saturday but I can’t see that happening with out fans.

Unless @Leysboy now wants to say he made a mistake and they haven’t down tools then surely we take it as the truth because why else would someone openly name the players?

Are they downing tools in training too, as they're still getting selected which would seem very odd practice by Des.

 

[Steve Gilbert]

Are they downing tools in training too, as they're still getting selected which would seem very odd practice by Des.

Apparently they have been from what @Leysboy said.

 

[Sheik djibouti]

Logically, if we don't win tomorrow you'd think time is almost up.

However, there's no way Des gets sacked. We could lose every game remaining an he still wouldn't. The owners have put too much on the line.

We (reportedly) spent more bringing Des in than we've paid for any player ever. He doesn't go after 5 months.

That's how I see it too. There's too much at stake for the SMT at the moment. If by some chance they do get rid before the end of the season (or even in the summer), then maybe the board should also take action over the SMT's serious lack of judgement or competence at running a football club, and they should be following him out of the door too.

Mind you, by the summer that could happen anyway if we don't get PP for the new stadium. We should know by mid June and I can't see them hanging around long if the dream of a new ground dies.

 

[Scrongo]

It's not only season ticket holders, will a lot of walk ups ,turn up regular next season???
Basically we've been knocking on the door of playoffs for a good few years now.
Bar last season, I think for a lot of the fans , the belief & heartbreaks is taking its toll.
I don't think,Des will get sacked, that's an awful lot of compo on managers in the last couple of seasons.
Robinson, Manning, Buckingham, plus a new manager.
Yeah, we can really afford to chuck money & time at another gamble on a manager.
That's what it is , no Manager is guaranteed success, no matter who you are. It's all about circumstances, luck & obviously skill... Oh & money, again & again & again ...

 

[dickwalton1964]

Apparently they have been from what @Leysboy said.

But still get selected. Is Des not noticing? It just doesn't add up.

 

[Grumpy Git]

What like Nathan Jones has done at Charlton? Clueless if you think Des can be successful here. The players think he is clueless as do majority of fans.

So you’re speaking to the players are you? You’re an ITK it that because a mate of yours knows a postman who delivers post to someone’s great granny who gets her pension from the same post office as a granny of one of the under 10’s.

 

[dickwalton1964]

That's how I see it too. There's too much at stake for the SMT at the moment. If by some chance they do get rid before the end of the season (or even in the summer), then maybe the board should also take action over the SMT's serious lack of judgement or competence at running a football club, and they should be following him out of the door too.

Mind you, by the summer that could happen anyway if we don't get PP for the new stadium. We should know by mid June and I can't see them hanging around long if the dream of a new ground dies.

Equally though if PP is granted then that will mask a whole load of deficiencies on the managerial side. It will engulf the club for a period of time and by the time the excitement subsides we will have completely forgotten about the mess we made of season 23/4.

 

[Bath Yellow]

I have supported the club for 76yrs, will i be renewing my season ticket, of course i will, i have seen it all over the years, the ups and downs, Oxford Utd are very much a big part of my life, i will be 85 in a few weeks and still go to as many games home and away as my health allows. I dont care if they were playing over the Leys i would still want to be there. So i say to those who say they wont be renewing next season if Buckingham is still here, do you support the club or not because if you do you have a funny way of showing it.

 

[Osleroad]

Logically, if we don't win tomorrow you'd think time is almost up.

However, there's no way Des gets sacked. We could lose every game remaining an he still wouldn't. The owners have put too much on the line.

We (reportedly) spent more bringing Des in than we've paid for any player ever. He doesn't go after 5 months.

An awful lot on the line if we get relegated to lg 2 - think we got a handsome comp from BC which more than covered the Des exit but that doesn't mean letting him go can't be part of the equation.