General Most Loved/Hated Music

[holdsteady]

The Divinyls released a song called 'I touch myself' back in 1990, Benny Benassi released 'Satisfaction' in 2002, and they aren't isolated releases just 2 off the top of my head. A lot of 90s/early 2000s rap and dance songs used this as a selling point. Sexual lyrics and themes have been around since the beginnings of the charts.

Sir Mix a lot was telling us he liked large derrieres back in 92, that seems pretty in your face, while naughty by nature had a song called OPP which stood for other peoples pussy back in 91, which I don't think was about felines. Music has been filth forever, they should ban it and get youngsters doing needle work instead.

 

[Wandering Yellow]

That's the tiktok generation for you, i'm 29 so think it's a bit too old for me, but know of some people my age well into the likes of Central Cee, Digga D + them types, I find that bizarre but each to their own.

DJs are becoming a lot more prominent in the mainstream I'd say and to be fair to them, a lot are producing some great tracks. I saw Fred again in September and it was a great show, with a really mixed aged crowd. Overmono are another good up-and-coming duo, then you still have the likes of Peggy Gou and The Chemical Brothers lighting up british festivals.

I do enjoy new house music as a hangover from getting into it at "events" whilst at university.

Dusky a particular favourite. Enjoy this kind of music going right back to classics like "a guy called gerald". Mr Man (revisit) by Dusky a particular favourite of mine at the moment.

 

[Big Ron]

This thread has evolved in a very strange way - the two younger participants (MY and WY) actually sound like my Dad watching Top Of The Pops in the 80s and bemoaning the state of society! Oddly, the older posters seem much open to new music and new experiences.

The Kooks, Klaxons and Hard-Fi are a rum old bunch of older acts to still want to listen to. You don't need to be 'in the know' just interested - there are loads of blogs, podcasts and specialist broadcasters like Revenant and SohoFM, as well KCRW from Califonia. 6Music even has it's moments, as long as it's not Craig Charles - there are some great shows, not least of all Huey on a Saturday, Gideon Coe and Marc Riley in the night or the Guy Garvey shows on a Sunday.

 

[holdsteady]

This from ODB back in 1999 was pretty near the knuckle (so to speak)

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Can we not put ODB in touch with a cat adoption service?

 

[SteMerritt]

Absolutely awesome, and yet none of their following stuff inspired me which is a shame.

Do you work in music, or just a big fan? I used to think I was really niche liking these kind of bands! Listened to fairwell to the fairground on repeat whilst getting the train up to Stevenage away once, top tune!

Just someone who likes listening to music and finding new acts that I like. Can't imagine giving up going to gigs, no point carrying on if you aren't looking out for new sounds. Mrs M is the same, we just want to get out and see bands.

 

[Big Ron]

Sir Mix a lot was telling us he liked large derrieres back in 92, that seems pretty in your face, while naughty by nature had a song called OPP which stood for other peoples pussy back in 91, which I don't think was about felines. Music has been filth forever, they should ban it and get youngsters doing needle work instead.

I think 2 Live Crew were telling us now much they 'liked pussy' back in the 80s and I'm not sure they were referring to Shrek.

Songs were slightly more suggestive than overtly filthy back in the 30s, but take a listen to 'Sweet Honey Hole' by Blind Boy Fuller or 'Banana In Your Fruit Basket' by Lucille Bogan, or even 'Blackpool Rock' by George Formby. Nothing changes, it just evolves.

 

[MustardYellow]

I'm guessing you've taken that 30m figure from Spotify alone - there are also Apple, Deezer, Amazon, Youtube, Tik Tok, Instagram, Bandcamp, Soundcloud and loads of localised streaming services. You can also add physical sales in the specialist genres - look at the likes of Ride who actively out making PAs and signing records last week.

I believe The Reytons also have some decent figures in what is called 'sync' ie putting music in ads, films and TV. The likes of Spotify and iTunes are not wholly reflective of what 'young' people are listening to, it's a broad guide at best but there is so much going on outside that. They are actually struggling to engage with the younger market in terms of subscribing and a whole generation who believe they should have everything for nothing.

I know of acts with minimal streaming figures who can sell 2/3,000 capacity venues on a regular basis and who simply focus on slowly growing and activating their fanbases.

I'm not denying there's a market. My point was merely that *compared to other genres* it's not particularly popular.

People listen to, largely, what's put in front of them. My generation aren't out there in record stores looking for new artists to discover/try out. The majority are on spotify, apple music, youtube etc listening to Cardi B explain how she pleasures men or how much Taylor Swift and Olivia Rodrigo miss (or hate) their ex boyfriends.

Obviously I'm generalising as some young people will be more 'into' music and explore different genres, but you get the point lol

 

[SteMerritt]

I think 2 Live Crew were telling us now much they 'liked pussy' back in the 80s and I'm not sure they were referring to Shrek.

Songs were slightly more suggestive than overtly filthy back in the 30s, but take a listen to 'Sweet Honey Hole' by Blind Boy Fuller or 'Banana In Your Fruit Basket' by Lucille Bogan, or even 'Blackpool Rock' by George Formby. Nothing changes, it just evolves.

Don't forget 'The Macc Lads', again in the 80s, with lyrical gems like...

"Get your gob 'round me knob, Get your teeth 'round me beef, Get your lipsies 'round me titsies, Get your smackers 'round me knackers"

 

[Eric Blair]

Can we not put ODB in touch with a cat adoption service?

As long as he doesnt have to pay for the cat then we'll be on to a winner

 

[holdsteady]

I'm not denying there's a market. My point was merely that *compared to other genres* it's not particularly popular.

People listen to, largely, what's put in front of them. My generation aren't out there in record stores looking for new artists to discover/try out. The majority are on spotify, apple music, youtube etc listening to Cardi B explain how she pleasures men or how much Taylor Swift and Olivia Rodrigo miss (or hate) their ex boyfriends.

Obviously I'm generalising as some young people will be more 'into' music and explore different genres, but you get the point lol

The only person I know who goes into record stores is my 15 year old step daughter, plenty of youngsters collect vinyl, it’s one reason Taylor Swift is so rich with her different colour vinyl releases etc, much to my wallets dislike.

 

[Big Ron]

I'm not denying there's a market. My point was merely that *compared to other genres* it's not particularly popular.

People listen to, largely, what's put in front of them. My generation aren't out there in record stores looking for new artists to discover/try out. The majority are on spotify, apple music, youtube etc listening to Cardi B explain how she pleasures men or how much Taylor Swift and Olivia Rodrigo miss (or hate) their ex boyfriends.

Obviously I'm generalising as some young people will be more 'into' music and explore different genres, but you get the point lol

You took one easily accessed figure from Spotify and effectively said that doesn't amount to much! Sure pop and r&b/rap are the mainstream genres generating huge streaming numbers, radio play and Tik Tok trends but I was trying to say that Spotify isn't the only measure of popularity or success.

The mass market has always listened to what was put in front of it - that's always been the way and why the term 'popular music' is used. I spent years working for a record chain back in the day and we weren't sustained by the likes of Steve who came in three times a week looking for new music, we made our money on the mass market who bought seven* albums a year.

If anything, it's actually easier to find new music now than ever before - you just need to be inquisitive and looking!

* commissioned research back in 1988 actually came up with that exact number!

 

[Thomas/Brock/Jones]

The Divinyls released a song called 'I touch myself' back in 1990, Benny Benassi released 'Satisfaction' in 2002, and they aren't isolated releases just 2 off the top of my head. A lot of 90s/early 2000s rap and dance songs used this as a selling point. Sexual lyrics and themes have been around since the beginnings of the charts.

Yes , probably think the 'grime ' is violent and sexual rather than fun / sexy / naughty .
The lyrics often are encouraging s**t standards from my older view of it.
Actually listening to it while in JD sports today thinking just how low quality it is.

 

[m]

This thread has evolved in a very strange way - the two younger participants (MY and WY) actually sound like my Dad watching Top Of The Pops in the 80s and bemoaning the state of society! Oddly, the older posters seem much open to new music and new experiences.

The Kooks, Klaxons and Hard-Fi are a rum old bunch of older acts to still want to listen to. You don't need to be 'in the know' just interested - there are loads of blogs, podcasts and specialist broadcasters like Revenant and SohoFM, as well KCRW from Califonia. 6Music even has it's moments, as long as it's not Craig Charles - there are some great shows, not least of all Huey on a Saturday, Gideon Coe and Marc Riley in the night or the Guy Garvey shows on a Sunday.

I feel unworthy and ashamed for finding Cerys hard work.

And yeah, some fantastic sessions on KCRW.

 

[Big Ron]

The only person I know who goes into record stores is my 15 year old step daughter, plenty of youngsters collect vinyl, it’s one reason Taylor Swift is so rich with her different colour vinyl releases etc, much to my wallets dislike.

Lots of kids and younger people buy vinyl - I'm a regular vinyl shopper and can see that in action - however, it would seem that as much 50% of vinyl bought is never actually played!

 

[Big Ron]

I feel unworthy and ashamed for finding Cerys hard work.

And yeah, some fantastic sessions on KCRW.

Don't - I absolutely reach for the dial when she's on. Iggy Pop's show has the same effect - the deep, mannered, name dropping drawl means you only get about 15 minutes music in every hour.

 

[Sarge]

Don't forget 'The Macc Lads', again in the 80s, with lyrical gems like...

"Get your gob 'round me knob, Get your teeth 'round me beef, Get your lipsies 'round me titsies, Get your smackers 'round me knackers"

who could forget the Macc lads with lyrics like' julie the schoolie, she bangs like a shithouse door when the plague's in town', and many other similar 'gems'

 

[Lost Marbles]

This is tough but here goes:

Most Loved
Mclusky To Hell With Good Intentions
Super Furry Animal Receptacle for the Respectable
Roots Manuva Evil Rabbit
Doves The Cedar Room
The Verve Sonnet

(Bands on the substitute bench: Levellers, Gomez, NOFX, Alabama 3, System of a Down, Snuff, Radiohead and a lot of ska and punk).

Most Hated
The Killers Mr Brightside
Franz Ferdinand Take Me Out
Kaiser Chiefs I Predict a Riot
Queen Bohemian Rhapsody
Metallica - Everything (I don't get it!)

 

[Eric Blair]

This is tough but here goes:

Most Loved
Mclusky To Hell With Good Intentions
Super Furry Animal Receptacle for the Respectable
Roots Manuva Evil Rabbit
Doves The Cedar Room
The Verve Sonnet

(Bands on the substitute bench: Levellers, Gomez, NOFX, Alabama 3, System of a Down, Snuff, Radiohead and a lot of ska and punk).

Most Hated
The Killers Mr Brightside
Franz Ferdinand Take Me Out
Kaiser Chiefs I Predict a Riot
Queen Bohemian Rhapsody
Metallica - Everything (I don't get it!)

Snuff - I must have seen them about 20 times! A great night out with those fellas.

 

[Eric Blair]

Loveless by My Bloody Valentine is amazing.

Reef go down as an awful awful band.

Controversially I think the Clash are massively over-rated.

 

[Big Ron]

Controversially I think the Clash are massively over-rated.

I'll see you outside!!