New Stadium Plans - The Triangle - Planning

Ah, 0.067%, another one for the bingo card!

Also McIvor really is a nasty piece of work. Smearing the club yet again. She knows we cannot stay at the current stadium, yet chooses to ignore that because it doesn't suit her argument.

Where is the evidence OUFC can stay at Grenoble Road?
 
Hey Suzy, as we know you read this, even if it is only 1 payment of £10,000 in total, which it won't be, to local groups, that is £10,000 more benefit to the local community than your "Friends" of Stratfield Brake have contributed. And that isn't even including the use of public funds you wasted on a poll that had no relevance to anything taken at a time when there were no plans revealed.
 
Hey Suzy, as we know you read this, even if it is only 1 payment of £10,000 in total, which it won't be, to local groups, that is £10,000 more benefit to the local community than your "Friends" of Stratfield Brake have contributed. And that isn't even including the use of public funds you wasted on a poll that had no relevance to anything taken at a time when there were no plans revealed.
Also, hi Suzy!

At least OUFC don't try and get taxpayers to pay for their lawyers fees.
 
This is such a good point - I drove from Summertown to Cowley Road today and yet again found myself seething at the OX2 posse swanning around the wide avenues. why not LTN all of the cross routes between Woodstock and Banbury Road like OX4?
Time to get the pitchforks out? - The Revolution Will Be Televised (as long as it’s at a pre-determined time that suits Sky TV’s sporting schedule and in no way interferes with The Champions League or Premier League)…
 
Time to get the pitchforks out? - The Revolution Will Be Televised (as long as it’s at a pre-determined time that suits Sky TV’s sporting schedule and in no way interferes with The Champions League or Premier League)…
Don't forget the Saturday 3pm blackout as well. I think we will be OK on a Sunday morning at 5am to 7am.
 
Hey Suzy, as we know you read this, even if it is only 1 payment of £10,000 in total, which it won't be, to local groups, that is £10,000 more benefit to the local community than your "Friends" of Stratfield Brake have contributed. And that isn't even including the use of public funds you wasted on a poll that had no relevance to anything taken at a time when there were no plans revealed.
apparently fosb applied for one of these grants and got turned down again hence why they are upset
 
The more times I read Councillor Gants objections, the more I think he's lost it. If residents in Wolvercote/Godstow want to use Sainsbury's in Kidlington, why on earth would they want to drive along Sunderland Avenue to then turn onto Banbury/Oxford Road? The quickest, and shortest route would take them along the A44 to join Frieze Way.
Likewise, to suggest that anyone would be inconvenienced by not using the Banbury/Oxford Road is nonsense. He says the A40 between the Wolvercote and Cutteslowe roundabouts (Sunderland Avenue) has frontages on both sides, some direct onto the road, some set back on access roads. It's a dual carriageway for the most part and a major arterial route between the two roundabouts. Is that going to change because the Oxford Road is restricted on occasion for up to 30 minutes? Really?

Five Mile Drive offers a potential “rat-run” through a wide,straight, residential road which already suffers from this kind of behaviour. Sounds like the perfect location for LTN's to be installed. That would put a stop to any of that nonsense. - Works in East Oxford, doesn't it? And, if the suggestion is that cars leaving the Park & Ride were to use Five Mile Drive as a rat run, what would it gain them? Anyone wishing to get home after a match would surely be looking to join the ring road at the roundabout at the A40. Anyone looking to travel to the North and West would have no issue in waiting a few minutes and then joining Frieze Way and not trouble North Oxford at all.

I am not aware that the potential effects of the closure proposed in this application have been factored into that modelling. The closure cannot be agreed or considered acceptable unless and until that is done. This is, at least, a small concession. Further traffic modelling, very possibly utilising the alternate version already mentioned. If that proves him and his puppet masters wrong, then he should retract his objection and make that public via the Cabinet to OCC.

He rambles on about preventing folk getting to Sainsbury's from the south which, as an argument against the stadium just doesn't add up. He should maybe ask Sainsbury's for their opinion.

He also seems convinced that the "rush hour" extends well into the evening and that Oxford/Banbury road is a major factor. I would love to see what the traffic modelling thinks of that claim.
I also take issue with his apparent stance that anyone attending a stadium has little or no right to utilise public parking such as Park & Ride locations. Why not Councillor? Why can they not utilise public transport, the railway etc? Are you saying that if I wish to visit Oxford and then attend a football match that I be precluded from using any of the Park & Ride locations? Not to mention that there will be so many of us travelling by car that the locations will have insufficient space for us all. Deluded.

And all this from the OCC Cabinet member for transport. Unbelievable.
 
Does anyone have any reference to where Grant Ferguson actually said this? Until I see it, I'll just assume it's the same unsubstantiated drivel that Suzanne McIvor spouts ever time she puts words to paper or opens her mouth.
all i can fined is this
and thats benson
which is just a rehash of the above
 
Perhaps Gant would benefit from a few emails from OUFC supporters who are dismayed at his objection to securing our future?

I doubt it, he won't read them.

A better idea would be for a show of support to the football club outside the next council meeting!
 
The more times I read Councillor Gants objections, the more I think he's lost it. If residents in Wolvercote/Godstow want to use Sainsbury's in Kidlington, why on earth would they want to drive along Sunderland Avenue to then turn onto Banbury/Oxford Road? The quickest, and shortest route would take them along the A44 to join Frieze Way.
Likewise, to suggest that anyone would be inconvenienced by not using the Banbury/Oxford Road is nonsense. He says the A40 between the Wolvercote and Cutteslowe roundabouts (Sunderland Avenue) has frontages on both sides, some direct onto the road, some set back on access roads. It's a dual carriageway for the most part and a major arterial route between the two roundabouts. Is that going to change because the Oxford Road is restricted on occasion for up to 30 minutes? Really?

Five Mile Drive offers a potential “rat-run” through a wide,straight, residential road which already suffers from this kind of behaviour. Sounds like the perfect location for LTN's to be installed. That would put a stop to any of that nonsense. - Works in East Oxford, doesn't it? And, if the suggestion is that cars leaving the Park & Ride were to use Five Mile Drive as a rat run, what would it gain them? Anyone wishing to get home after a match would surely be looking to join the ring road at the roundabout at the A40. Anyone looking to travel to the North and West would have no issue in waiting a few minutes and then joining Frieze Way and not trouble North Oxford at all.

I am not aware that the potential effects of the closure proposed in this application have been factored into that modelling. The closure cannot be agreed or considered acceptable unless and until that is done. This is, at least, a small concession. Further traffic modelling, very possibly utilising the alternate version already mentioned. If that proves him and his puppet masters wrong, then he should retract his objection and make that public via the Cabinet to OCC.

He rambles on about preventing folk getting to Sainsbury's from the south which, as an argument against the stadium just doesn't add up. He should maybe ask Sainsbury's for their opinion.

He also seems convinced that the "rush hour" extends well into the evening and that Oxford/Banbury road is a major factor. I would love to see what the traffic modelling thinks of that claim.
I also take issue with his apparent stance that anyone attending a stadium has little or no right to utilise public parking such as Park & Ride locations. Why not Councillor? Why can they not utilise public transport, the railway etc? Are you saying that if I wish to visit Oxford and then attend a football match that I be precluded from using any of the Park & Ride locations? Not to mention that there will be so many of us travelling by car that the locations will have insufficient space for us all. Deluded.

And all this from the OCC Cabinet member for transport. Unbelievable.
LTNs are only for where the poor people live remember?

You are right though. Gant has lost it and let his true colours show. Outrageous from an OCC cabinet member.
 
they dont seem to put these letters on line any more
If I was a cynical man, I’d suggest that McIvor has asked her friendly contact at the OM to not publish online. When that’s happened, the letters have been shown up for what they are by our supporters using the comments section. She doesn’t have that issue with the physical paper and it is that which is the medium most effective at reaching their intended audience: older, anti-change, selfish and partial to a bit of causal racism.
 
all i can fined is this
and thats benson
which is just a rehash of the above
Taken from the first article...

Oxford United will provide £10,000 in grants as part of a new community initiative connected with proposals for their new stadium. The Dreaming Spires project aims to bring improvements to Oxfordshire through a variety of programmes and initiatives. Plans include work experience and career opportunities for students and young professionals, along with mental health support programmes, mentoring, and educational outreach.

The club is also committing to upgrade sports pitches at Stratfield Brake and has assured that the its training ground will remain at Horspath Road, with the majority of community programmes run from there.

To kickstart the initiative, Oxford United is launching a £10,000 fund for charities, school, grassroot clubs, and voluntary groups. Known as the community giving-back fund, 10 £1,000 grants will be awarded to not-for-profit organisations in Oxfordshire.

There has been some selective reading going on I think. If I could be arsed I'd write to the Mail and point this out, but that's what that rag wants so I won't.
 
If I was a cynical man, I’d suggest that McIvor has asked her friendly contact at the OM to not publish online. When that’s happened, the letters have been shown up for what they are by our supporters using the comments section. She doesn’t have that issue with the physical paper and it is that which is the medium most effective at reaching their intended audience: older, anti-change, selfish and partial to a bit of causal racism.
Indeed, she has got a little cross in the comments sections on the OM website before. Perhaps if she doesn't like the heat she ought to get out of the kitchen?
 
all i can fined is this
and thats benson
which is just a rehash of the above
This is what has been quoted:
 
all i can fined is this
and thats benson
which is just a rehash of the above
Thanks Billy. So looking at the Dreaming Spires Project website it says this:

'To celebrate the launch of the Dreaming Spires project the club has launched an immediate £10,000 fund for charities, grassroots clubs, schools and voluntary groups.'

But the site also highlights 20 apprenticeships available during the 2 year build, maintenance of Stratfield Brake pitches, mental health programmes and mentoring and education programmes. So that £10k is basically just OUFC offering more to the community before they even know if a stadium will be allowed, alongside all the other community work they do.

She's basically taken something that I think we'd all agree is a good thing, providing money to the community, and portrayed it in a negative light. Pretty typical of what we've seen so far.
 
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