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I'm not really sure it's something that can be measured. Any analysis into points totals can be looked at either way.I keep seeing "this is a poor league" as a re-occurring theme in many threads.
How has that conclusion been reached and how is this measured? Is this based on any empirical evidence and compared to previous League 1 seasons?
Just wondered how this has been established.
I keep seeing "this is a poor league" as a re-occurring theme in many threads.
How has that conclusion been reached and how is this measured? Is this based on any empirical evidence and compared to previous League 1 seasons?
Just wondered how this has been established.
I was thinking the same. Last season according to many, we stayed up because the other teams were so bad!I keep seeing "this is a poor league" as a re-occurring theme in many threads.
How has that conclusion been reached and how is this measured? Is this based on any empirical evidence and compared to previous League 1 seasons?
Just wondered how this has been established.
Are not that bad compared to what though? I wouldn't say the top 6 this season is full of good teams of a high quality. We're comparing teams that aren't that good to teams that aren't that good!I was thinking the same. Last season according to many, we stayed up because the other teams were so bad!
I think in reality, there are fewer really good teams because the teams that came down from the Championship have been relatively poor ( Reading, Blackpool, Wigan).
The poorer teams are probably better this season (nobody is as bad as FGR were), and Cheltenham , and even Charlton are not that bad!!
Knowledgeable supporters watching lots of games is as good a marker as any.I keep seeing "this is a poor league" as a re-occurring theme in many threads.
How has that conclusion been reached and how is this measured? Is this based on any empirical evidence and compared to previous League 1 seasons?
Just wondered how this has been established.
Donโt forget Carlisle. They are woeful. Also Fleetwood.I was thinking the same. Last season according to many, we stayed up because the other teams were so bad!
I think in reality, there are fewer really good teams because the teams that came down from the Championship have been relatively poor ( Reading, Blackpool, Wigan).
The poorer teams are probably better this season (nobody is as bad as FGR were), and Cheltenham , and even Charlton are not that bad!!
Of course it can. Itโs called โusing your eyesโ.I'm not really sure it's something that can be measured. Any analysis into points totals can be looked at either way.
One thing I would say though is how many teams have you watched us play and gone 'they're a very good team'? Only one I can think of is Peterborough. No one else looks much beyond 'decent'.
I meant measured in terms of using numbers.Of course it can. Itโs called โusing your eyesโ.
Who's making the judgement on whether said supporters are knowledgeable or notKnowledgeable supporters watching lots of games is as good a marker as any.
Cf the quality of referees in L1 is the worst itโs been for years.
Also the fact that while exciting goodrham does not play with width. He starts narrow and cramps space & doesnโt keep the width in our side, brilliantly talented but doesnโt help his teammates in this regard & something he can improve on in my view, Murphy is better in this regard as is Burey from the little Iโve seen of him.
I'd also say that Peterborough are woeful....at this moment in time. And yet they came here and looked like the best team in the division, but they can't buy a win at present.Donโt forget Carlisle. They are woeful. Also Fleetwood.
Decent pointI'd also say that Peterborough are woeful....at this moment in time. And yet they came here and looked like the best team in the division, but they can't buy a win at present.
Some teams make others look good when they play them, and some teams make others look crap when they play them. So many variables will surely go into why this happens that it is very difficult to draw any meaningful conclusions. All teams and individuals have off days and also have days where everything just comes together . . . and then you have to factor in confidence and momentum, which can always make a team achieve more (or less) than the sum of its parts might otherwise suggest.
Based on?I meant measured in terms of using numbers.
Anyone who's watched a decent amount of L1 games this season can see the quality is overall pretty poor.
The quality of football is pretty good in my opinion. What is different this season is that there arenโt two teams who are obviously much better than everyone else. Even Portsmouth are catchable for Bolton and Derby.I meant measured in terms of using numbers.
Anyone who's watched a decent amount of L1 games this season can see the quality is overall pretty poor.
As I said in an earlier post, you can take any of those numbers either way, and as you rightly say it could be down to a number of variables. If passing accuracy was higher this season (for example), you could say that's evidence the quality is better or alternatively say it's evidence more teams are playing it safe and just passing round the back more, taking less risks etc. It's something that's impossible to determine through numbers.Based on?
Maybe if you could point to the evidence that teams are misplacing more passes, more shots are off target, more tackles are being missed, more free kicks are being conceeded, less clean sheets are being kept, less goals are being scored, that might be a start.
But just take misplaced passes as an example (ie did not reach the intended target). Was it because the player just did a crap inaccurate kick, or was it because of the way the defending team closed the player down to force the error. Was it a forced or unforced error.
Same with shots on/off target - was it unforced, or down to the way it was defended. Or shots/goal ratio - did the keeper have a "worldy"?
It's certainly interesting how we can all watch the same games and come to different conclusions. I think it just depends on what people as individuals watch football for and how they personally view/determine what 'good' football actually is.The quality of football is pretty good in my opinion. What is different this season is that there arenโt two teams who are obviously much better than everyone else. Even Portsmouth are catchable for Bolton and Derby.
Now the quality of referees in League One. That is a different matter.
Yep. Thatโs very true and also what you are used to perhaps.It's certainly interesting how we can all watch the same games and come to different conclusions. I think it just depends on what people as individuals watch football for and how they personally view/determine what 'good' football actually is.
I agree about the refs though... it's bad.
It could be that it looked like a harder league last season because we were utter shite for a lot of it, so the majority of teams we played looked better than us.I keep seeing "this is a poor league" as a re-occurring theme in many threads.
How has that conclusion been reached and how is this measured? Is this based on any empirical evidence and compared to previous League 1 seasons?
Just wondered how this has been established.