That said the SA data looks promising.
Indeed.
So, do we monitor the situation hourly and proceed with caution? Or, ignore the early data and just stop families spending time with their loved ones.
That said the SA data looks promising.
You wouldn't, would you?
For Johnson it's 'better to be sorry than safe' as he doesn't do sorry.
That said the SA data looks promising.
All I heard is the planning is for 27th December curcuit breaker both inside and outside government. This has been the provisional plan since the back end of last week. I am sure there are many options. But the give the people Christmas and then react is the preferred option.Taking a middle path makes eminent sense based on what we know so far...... with the option to do more post-Christmas if needed.
Is that a red or white?All I heard is the planning is for 27th December curcuit breaker both inside and outside government. This has been the provisional plan since the back end of last week. I am sure there are many options. But the give the people Christmas and then react is the preferred option.
Hum, I have suggested stopping 'families spending time with their loved ones'. I will be!Indeed.
So, do we monitor the situation hourly and proceed with caution? Or, ignore the early data and just stop families spending time with their loved ones.
Hum, I have suggested stopping 'families spending time with their loved ones'. I will be!
Others who analyse these things closely point to the dangers of drawings comparisons with the SA data. I hope it translates to other demographics on other continents I just wouldn't gamble mine or anyone else's life on it!
Hum, I have suggested stopping 'families spending time with their loved ones'. I will be!
Others who analyse these things closely point to the dangers of drawings comparisons with the SA data. I hope it translates to other demographics on other continents I just wouldn't gamble mine or anyone else's life on it!
I broadly agree except that Flu is endemic and we have a very great deal of understanding about the ways in which that virus behaves with a well established annual vaccination programme, should people choose to use it. As far as 'deadliness' is concerned, this of course is highly relevant by the virtue of the fact that this is not the only concern as the global responses demonstrate. Death, is the worst possible outcome of course, but the myriad related outcomes of this illness we haven't yet begun to understand. And, it is the capacity to consider that we don't know which is so important.It's not meaningless.
When deciding what measures to take against a disease, you have to take into account both its transmissibility and its deadliness.
If you only cared about deadliness, you'd have to lock down every year because of influenza (which kills 25-30k); if you only cared about transmissibility, then you'd have to lock down for any rhinovirus that goes round each year.
What has made Covid (both the original strains, and delta) 'special' is this combination - it's both incredibly contagious, and (compared to most common colds) extremely deadly, particularly to at-risk individuals.
With Omicron, we don't have the data yet. We do know it's absurdly contagious. We don't yet know how deadly it is. My understanding is that there have not yet been enough hospital cases to draw any statistically significant conclusions.
So whilst I can absolutely understand countries taking precautionary lockdown measures whilst we wait for that data to come in......when we do have the data, then mortality rate has to be one of the factors that helps determine what countermeasures are appropriate.
Aka give us your money.Mayor declares ‘major incident’ as the Omicron variant surges
Sadiq Khan has today declared a ‘major incident’ due to the rapid spread of the Omicron variant across the capital.www.london.gov.uk
"It means that coordination arrangements between key public services will be further stepped-up with the re-establishment of the Strategic Coordinating Group, which will have a Government representative enabling London to seek further support from government to address the pressures facing the city."
That’s good input. I guess as someone said elsewhere the fear is of things no longer functioning if a lot of the most active workers are off. Hopefully things will improve as more people get boosted.Early U.K. data is now coming out re Omicron. It is looking like the peak infection date was 15th December. Not that you would hear or see this on the Beeb.
Two of my daughters caught the virus on 11th. They live in SE London. Caught it at a local party. So apparently did everyone else. No one has thankfully been more than mildly ill. (Omicron has spread like wildfire in Southwark and Lambeth. ) The issue with Khan’s ‘major incident’ is that many 20 and 30 year olds work for NHS/public sector and many of them have been off work. Hence the potential ‘breakdown in civilisation’.
We live in SW London. We have a decent circle of friends and acquaintances. We have heard of no one over 40 who’s caught the latest wave. It’s all twenty somethings.
All I’m saying is that it’s not Shaun of the Dead here.
Not much talk of long COVID recently.
Not on the "national news"...... but...
Long Covid patients still affected one year after discharge, study finds
New research finds people with long Covid lasting months after hospital treatment are still suffering.www.bbc.co.uk
£8.4m for new COVID-19 research | University of Leicester
PHOSP-COVID is the first UK wide study to assess the health impacts of COVID-19 on patients and their rehabilitation.le.ac.uk
PHOSP
www.phosp.org
I've a work colleague who contracted covid last year, which subsequently was diagnosed as long covid, she tried to ease back into work on a part-time basis, but eventually, it proved to be, even on part-time hours, working from home, was too much for her to cope with. She's been off long term sick for nearly 6 months now, it'll be a year since she first contacted covid, mid Feb next yearNot on the "national news"...... but...
Long Covid patients still affected one year after discharge, study finds
New research finds people with long Covid lasting months after hospital treatment are still suffering.www.bbc.co.uk
£8.4m for new COVID-19 research | University of Leicester
PHOSP-COVID is the first UK wide study to assess the health impacts of COVID-19 on patients and their rehabilitation.le.ac.uk
PHOSP
www.phosp.org
Mate in his late twenties still suffering 18 months on. Was fit as a flea and still can’t even go for a mild jog on a cold day because the air stings his lungs too much. For the first year he couldn’t even vacuum the house without taking a break and when it was cold he couldn’t even go for a walk, let alone anything more. This guy regularly used to do a 5k on his lunch break when we worked together, cos why not, and was what I can only describe as “ripped”. Teetotal, never smoked - arguably the healthiest guy I know.Not much talk of long COVID recently.