Away Match Day Thread 29/03/24 - L1: Shrewsbury v OUFC

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[tomoufc]

I watched the game but can you tell me how Des wants to play? I saw loads of long over the top passes from Brown especially - are we long ball? I saw us getting men behind the ball when Shrewsbury got on top and then trying to break - are we a counter attack side? I didn’t see a particularly high press from us - I assume we aren’t a side who press the opposition? I saw a lot of balls played down the channels with Harris drifting out wide, hardly saw any overlapping or attacking involvement from full backs. Then with about 8 minutes to go I saw players taking responsibility on the ball and creating a glut of chances.

Which are we? 26 or so games in I’m none the wiser.

The Brown long balls were dire. So many of them in the first half, either to no effect whatsoever, or a couple which led to fairly dangerous Shrewsbury attacks. I was hoping Des would put a stop to it at half time. At the first opportunity after kick off in the second half Brown did it again. If that’s part of a plan, if love to know what that plan is.

 

[OX14]

While I agree Des isn’t the answer, the squad isn’t good enough either. Too many are past it or injury prone. That’s why Manning got out when he got the chance, he knew we wouldn’t be up to it for 46 games. We are still a couple of windows away at least

No he got out because he was offered triple wages and a chance to manage at an established championship club.

 

[QuietYeller]

No he got out because he was offered triple wages and a chance to manage at an established championship club.

That too!

So you honestly think this squad of players are good enough? I could list you at least 10 that aren’t

 

[Joey]

Can't be bothered to get into a lot of tedious depressing arguments. There's no point you constantly typing this stuff out, the club don't read this site, or if they do they'll have blocked you. Without being very good we should have won that handsomely, I blame our dodgy keeper and lack of a goal poacher rather than Des on this occasion. We've been nervous as kittens since Beadle left, and though they weren't great today Murphy and Dale put in several excellent balls that no one anticipated or were quick enough to get to.

Honestly wouldn't be surprised by this. They're so incredibly thin skinned that any criticism, no matter how justified, will likely be blocked out. Not saying this is the case but the idea of it isn't something to be celebrated or brushed off, constructive criticism should always be taken on board.

For what it's worth I think @Swaby39 is one of the best posters on here, makes clear points and generally responds respectfully even when disagreeing. He's been consistent in his views and personally think it's hard to argue with a lot of it. It's only just over a year ago when plenty of people were having a pop at posters making well thought out posts criticising Robinson, I'd hope we'd have learned from that. At times the same point will be repeated, especially when the same mistakes are repeated on the pitch. As long as it's done respectfully I don't see the issue.

 

[Steve Gilbert]

Paul Heckingbottom (Sheffield United), Michael Duff (Cheltenham & Barnsley) or Alex Neil (Sunderland & Norwich) are 3 high level replacements we could go for.

So you want us to pay off Des who still has 3 years left on his contract to then get a championship manager in who will come at a high cost and then add in another transfer of high activity all while our owners are wanting to build us a new stadium at a cost of over £100million, oh and all this on top of covering the 6 million pound losses?

 

[uptheus]

Glad I'm not sat next to you, otherwise it surely would...

?

 

[OX14]

So you want us to pay off Des who still has 3 years left on his contract to then get a championship manager in who will come at a high cost and then add in another transfer of high activity all while our owners are wanting to build us a new stadium at a cost of over £100million, oh and all this on top of covering the 6 million pound losses?

If they hadn't of paid off Robinson last season and we went down to League 2 how much more would the losses have been though?

 

[PottersRightBoot]

But despite everything you said about the lead up to their goal, and yes Moore's first clearance was a bit clumsy and off balance, I thought Brown's clearing header under pressure was then half decent, the closing down on the edge of the box might have been a bit better as their player got a shot of sorts away, the actual shot that the team afforded the opposition given the previous 30 seconds of a bit of disarray became one as good as you can allow under the circumstances, and 99999 times out of 100,000 your keeper is saving. The shot is easily saved, panic over, the game keeps going, we win 1-0.

This is League 1 football, attackers at this level generally do have a moment in each game which you can do nothing about, and defenders or midfielders tend to not do their job properly all of the time. Shots from the opposition team happen. It is fine margins and often turns into what you can get away with in every game. We got away with it to give a chance that turned out to be of minimal probability of it going into the net. The liability that has become our goalkeeper turns this into a goal that should never have been. Goalkeeper errors happen too. But they have become too regular and absolutely horrific of late. You can say that we needed to score another goal to make the game safe. And ideally you would. But it is far more difficult for anyone to score a goal than it is for a keeper to save the shot that Cumming has just let in. We didn't need another goal today. We just needed a basic save to be made.

No but he is becoming an easy go to for some when it comes to blaming players.

He should have saved that shot. His error. ‘End of’.

 

[RyanioBirdio]

 

[Northstandboy]

Interviews linked at the top.

 

[uptheus]

Did we sit on it? I thought we were a lot more on the front foot 2nd half. We missed about 5 massive chances to score and that’s on the players for me.

We went on the front foot at stages in the 2nd half, and even more so after we conceded. Just thought we should have gone for it more in the first half too, but we were poor.

Shrewsbury very ordinary from the off and we’re there for the taking, but we just didn’t do this from the off. We needed that 2nd goal to have really killed them off and give us that 2 goal cushion that we obviously need, especially as we know we’re susceptible on conceding one!

Real shame today because I hoped we’d get 6 points out of these 2 games, so now hoping we get all 3 on Monday.

How people are saying the season’s over is beyond me. Whilst there’s a chance we’ve got to believe.

 

[Coffin dodger]

I think blaming Cumming for the goal is a bit harsh, there must have been at least eight players obstructing his view of the ball. The ball should never have come into the box in the first place, thank-you Sam.

 

[billyturleyscurlywurly]

So you want us to pay off Des who still has 3 years left on his contract to then get a championship manager in who will come at a high cost and then add in another transfer of high activity all while our owners are wanting to build us a new stadium at a cost of over £100million, oh and all this on top of covering the 6 million pound losses?

Yes

 

[QuietYeller]

We went on the front foot at stages in the 2nd half, and even more so after we conceded. Just thought we should ga e gone for it more in the first half too, but we were poor.

Shrewsbury very ordinary from the off and we’re there for the taking, but we just didn’t do this from the off. We needed that 2nd goal to have really killed them off and give us that 2 goal cushion that we obviously need, especially as we know we’re susceptible on conceding one!

Real Shane today because I hoped we’d get 6 points out if these games, so now hoping we get all 3 on Monday.

How people are saying the season’s over is beyond me. Whilst there’s a chance we’ve got to believe.

Def agree re the first half. We got worse as it went on. Maybe credit to Shrewsbury too for pushing us back. They caused our defence huge problems but were just as poor at finishing us

 

[Leysboy]

That too!

So you honestly think this squad of players are good enough? I could list you at least 10 that aren’t

I reckon LM would of got this club a top Six finish.

What he squeezed out of the squad he had available to him, was remarkable. If he didn’t go to Bristol City, I’m confident he would of recruited well in January, and filled a couple more weak spots we have in the squad.

Would we have gone up…. Probably not, but he would have done better with the tools Des has.

 

[West Oxon U’s]

 

[uptheus]

I think blaming Cumming for the goal is a bit harsh, there must have been at least eight players obstructing his view of the ball. The ball should never have come into the box in the first place, thank-you Sam.

I think Bennett (think it was him) makes half an attempt to kick the ball coming through, but decides to leave it which I don’t think helped Cumming either.

 

[QuietYeller]

I reckon LM would of got this club a top Six finish.

What he squeezed out of the squad he had available to him, was remarkable. If he didn’t go to Bristol City, I’m confident he would of recruited well in January, and filled a couple more weak spots we have in the squad.

Would we have gone up…. Probably not, but he would have done better with the tools Des has.

Maybe but it’s all academic because he buggered off. Still think there’s too many players that are past it or injury prone to get play offs, outlined by the # of injuries mid season. Could a different manager have done better? probably, but again it makes no difference because, as u say, there ain’t no way we’re getting promoted thru the playoffs!

 

[OX14]

That too!

So you honestly think this squad of players are good enough? I could list you at least 10 that aren’t

Nope but players bar Murphy were performing better under Manning.

We will never know what business he would of done in January but I'm pretty certain we would of atleast ended up in the play offs.

 

[Oufcrealist]

I'll start by saying that it's clear we're not as good as many think on here, we're quite ordinary really. Manning had us in a good place but even then there were some concerns and poor performances. I don't think Des is the right man for the job and never have, he just has too many flaws and is clearly very naive. I wanted a manager with at least some experience in this country at a decent level.
I will say though that quite often the players are letting us all down. It's not Des that's telling the keeper and defenders to make mistakes, the midfield to go missing or the forwards to miss easy chances. As I said, my conclusion is we're fairly mediocre managed by a virtual novice in football league terms.