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I just bought a match pass and it appears to be working although I have a frozen screen at the moment. US based friend also just bought by the game last season.So, (if you were abroad let’s say…) do you have to buy an overall pass and then on top of that pay for each game?
I feel better knowing someone else has the same as me!My screen is frozen too. I won't start panicking just yet.
it is normally ifollow only for streaming, not on BBC Sounds.Can't even get radio Oxford on the internet this season
It shouldn't be if you're an iFollow subscriber. You should get brief highlights, extended highlights, a full match replay and interviews.Cant seem to get the whole match replay,just still images and a match report. Is that it?
It is quite staggering to realise that in this day and age of digital communications, instant video replay, countless TV channels etc, etc. the EFL cannot get it's two brain cells to collide and come up with the ability to broadcast to fans, individual games on a pay per view platform, without making a complete pigs ear out of the whole thing.Reminder that Carabao Cup games are not available on iFollow video, god knows why, there seems to be only 4 matches being shown on overseas TV channels out of how many fixtures?!
I don't come to this forum to read well informed and considered posts. Stop it. I want iFollow and I want it now.The EFL couldn’t vote to bring back the streams even if it wanted to. Sky are solely in charge of that decision as the rights holder - they call the shots on what anybody else is allowed to broadcast. Last season Sky agreed to waive the restrictions as clubs needed the cash due to no attendances, but now that is gone and the blackout is back. They don’t want anybody not at a game watching a club stream, they want you watching Soccer Saturday as they go ‘around the grounds’. They have sponsors and advertisers and that is their priority, and what funds the hundreds of millions that the EFL (primarily the Championship) is paid for the exclusivity. There is nothing the EFL can do within the existing deal. Clubs can vote all they want, but Sky have a contract. You can’t vote that away.
The real kicker will be when the EFL and Premier League both sign fresh deals under the same draconian terms, because they would rather have a guaranteed cheque paid in full than take the ‘risk’. That’s the biggest problem that football faces - Sky offer jumbo jets filled with cash to an industry that gave up the idea of sustainability years ago, as well as a built-in infrastructure. They pay the money and handle everything logistically, while the EFL / PL just sit back and let them get on with it. The fat cats in suits who just want free meals and a seat in the directors’ box at whatever game they choose that weekend won’t know the first thing about how to set up a platform, nor do they have the desire to learn. They’re here for the steak and the bottle of red, just as they always will be, and there will still be enough punters happy with that. The fact that there are a good handful of people on this forum (based on their own comments on the season tickets thread over the summer) who seem to believe that a little camera pointing at the pitch will destroy the game and lead to empty stadiums is pretty incredible. I can only assume that those same people still use teletext to check the scores and watch Big Break every weekend.
Either way, it’s nothing to do with the EFL as to whether the streams are available this season or not. It’ll only become something that can change when it’s time for a new deal, which I think isn’t for another couple of years. Only Sky can decide to loosen their grip before that, and I don’t know what incentive they have to do so.
VPN.
The EFL couldn’t vote to bring back the streams even if it wanted to. Sky are solely in charge of that decision as the rights holder - they call the shots on what anybody else is allowed to broadcast. Last season Sky agreed to waive the restrictions as clubs needed the cash due to no attendances, but now that is gone and the blackout is back. They don’t want anybody not at a game watching a club stream, they want you watching Soccer Saturday as they go ‘around the grounds’. They have sponsors and advertisers and that is their priority, and what funds the hundreds of millions that the EFL (primarily the Championship) is paid for the exclusivity. There is nothing the EFL can do within the existing deal. Clubs can vote all they want, but Sky have a contract. You can’t vote that away.
The real kicker will be when the EFL and Premier League both sign fresh deals under the same draconian terms, because they would rather have a guaranteed cheque paid in full than take the ‘risk’. That’s the biggest problem that football faces - Sky offer jumbo jets filled with cash to an industry that gave up the idea of sustainability years ago, as well as a built-in infrastructure. They pay the money and handle everything logistically, while the EFL / PL just sit back and let them get on with it. The fat cats in suits who just want free meals and a seat in the directors’ box at whatever game they choose that weekend won’t know the first thing about how to set up a platform, nor do they have the desire to learn. They’re here for the steak and the bottle of red, just as they always will be, and there will still be enough punters happy with that. The fact that there are a good handful of people on this forum (based on their own comments on the season tickets thread over the summer) who seem to believe that a little camera pointing at the pitch will destroy the game and lead to empty stadiums is pretty incredible. I can only assume that those same people still use teletext to check the scores and watch Big Break every weekend.
Either way, it’s nothing to do with the EFL as to whether the streams are available this season or not. It’ll only become something that can change when it’s time for a new deal, which I think isn’t for another couple of years. Only Sky can decide to loosen their grip before that, and I don’t know what incentive they have to do so.
VPN.
Hmmm...I see the point you are making but I don't remember that being the case as regards music. The problem was a global issue rather than just the UK - the music companies (particularly the likes of Universal, Sony and Warner) were incredibly slow to embrace the digital revolution and hardcore music fans were quick to adopt P2P and torrents. There weren't a mass of legal services outside of the UK that weren't available here, at least not ones with any real client base,Reminds me of the era where you couldn't legally buy MP3s in this country but could elsewhere.
The amount of money the BMI must have lost as people resorted to P2P and torrents to get what they wanted, and others could legally have.
This is a very important point that you raise, and one which is often missed in discussion regarding the purpose of any sort of digital content and gateways. I had this argument a million times when I used to work for and with record labels. People pay for Spotify / Apple etc for the convenience. They don’t actually place the value on the content they’re accessing, they’re primarily paying it so that they don’t have to go around pirating stuff from multiple sources, and can have that access in one place. They can get the music they want one way or the other - millions were using torrenting software over 20 years ago when it was all dial-up modems and downloading an entire album took five hours. What they’re paying for is ease of use, and that’s a really powerful tool.Ask yourself why many people sought other means of viewing Football and other sports, the clue is it wasn't just the cost.
I met Daniel Ek maybe 13 or 14 years ago. The people he was in my office to meet with literally laughed him out of the building. One of my favourite stories to bust out at cocktail parties and gala balls, which I obviously attend regularly.Reminds me of the era where you couldn't legally buy MP3s in this country but could elsewhere.
The amount of money the BMI must have lost as people resorted to P2P and torrents to get what they wanted, and others could legally have.
One third of every music sale in return for providing server space and a search bar. Unbelievable that the music business allowed a computer company to come along and take an enormous chunk of their pie for what more or less amounted to making an online library with a payment gate. All because they were too busy hocking CDs to HMV for £6 a unit and thinking it would never end. I remember starting out at record labels as a 16/17 year old right as it was all happening, and even as a literal child I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Halcyon days…As someone who works in the business, I can say that everything that happened was slow and reactive and it was Apple (love 'em or loath 'em) who changed the market by introducing a customer friendly platform (iTunes) and an easily usable player (the iPod).