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Yet there is 2 in the Premier League. Weird eh!Just looking at it, there's only 1 stadium in the Championship this season that has an average attendance of below 16,000 so far (Rotherham).
Yet there is 2 in the Premier League. Weird eh!Just looking at it, there's only 1 stadium in the Championship this season that has an average attendance of below 16,000 so far (Rotherham).
If the plan is to be a top 30 club, is 16k enough long term though?
I wouldn't necessarily say we're a 'sleeping giant', but we're in a location where there aren't many, if any, 'big' clubs within a close proximity. If we get to a decent level (ie, the Championship), you may see a fair new match-goers, especially when the 'bigger' clubs come to town. Play decent football in those games and who knows, maybe a number of those become regulars, or bring their friends/family along to the next game.
If we stay in L1 16k is more than enough, we won't even get close to filling it most weeks. But if we progress under the right circumstances I think there's certainly potential for the fanbase, or at least match-going base, to increase considerably.
Just looking at it, there's only 1 stadium in the Championship this season that has an average attendance of below 16,000 so far (Rotherham).
As others have said, it really isn't a problem for us right now and there's very little evidence it's about to become a problem. We must have had the same discussions back in the Kassam days but we've been sitting in a half empty stadium for over 20 years now. It's depressing and tinpot, the atmosphere is rubbish because of it.If the plan is to be a top 30 club, is 16k enough long term though?
I wouldn't necessarily say we're a 'sleeping giant', but we're in a location where there aren't many, if any, 'big' clubs within a close proximity. If we get to a decent level (ie, the Championship), you may see a fair new match-goers, especially when the 'bigger' clubs come to town. Play decent football in those games and who knows, maybe a number of those become regulars, or bring their friends/family along to the next game.
If we stay in L1 16k is more than enough, we won't even get close to filling it most weeks. But if we progress under the right circumstances I think there's certainly potential for the fanbase, or at least match-going base, to increase considerably.
Just looking at it, there's only 1 stadium in the Championship this season that has an average attendance of below 16,000 so far (Rotherham).
Tbf that's probably down to the size of the stadium.Yet there is 2 in the Premier League. Weird eh!
Wasn't even one objection in that lot and 2 more from Kidlington itselfGreat batch of supporting comments on the CDC planning portal has just been uploaded. Well done to all.
How do you find the comments?Wasn't even one objection in that lot and 2 more from Kidlington itself
Press the symbol with three small horizontal lines next to the Main Details box. After that press Supporting Documents and you’ll find the comments towards the bottom.How do you find the comments?
You'd think we would be aiming to be in the Championship by the time the stadium is built.As others have said, it really isn't a problem for us right now and there's very little evidence it's about to become a problem. We must have had the same discussions back in the Kassam days but we've been sitting in a half empty stadium for over 20 years now. It's depressing and tinpot, the atmosphere is rubbish because of it.
I wouldn't want to be a Burnley, Middlesbrough, Hull, Cardiff type club which has great attendances in the Premier League (if we're ever lucky enough to get there) and then a half empty stadium when we drop back into the Championship.
A healthy bank of season ticket holders who are motivated by demand for their seats is better than a stadium full of daytrippers.
It was always going to be expensive. Land value alone in Oxfordshire is quite high (might be another reason behind the objections?)You'd think we would be aiming to be in the Championship by the time the stadium is built.
I get what you mean, it just seems a huge outlay for what is a fairly small stadium with very limited expansion capacity.
You'd think we would be aiming to be in the Championship by the time the stadium is built.
I get what you mean, it just seems a huge outlay for what is a fairly small stadium with very limited expansion capacity.
"he alternative is a stadium that will cost twice as much as Brentford’s, and be half the size of it." - the capacity of the Brentford Community Stadium is 17,250. Land size 12 acres v 8 acres for BCS.Quite clearly it wouldn’t. Attending to some repairs in an existing, relatively new stadium wouldn’t be anywhere near as much as buying the land, infrastructure and building a new place.
The alternative is a stadium that will cost twice as much as Brentford’s, and be half the size of it. The ‘fresh start’ as you put it would be saddling ourselves with even more eye-watering levels of unaffordable debt.
We’ve left things too late to have worked out a proper Plan B. I’ve got no desire to stay at the Ka$$am not line his pockets further.
But we haven’t sorted out whose magic money tree is going to yield £150M for a lower league club to get a shiny new stadium.
The closest thing to a Plan B is to stay where we are and slowly redevelop the place at our own pace and in a sustainable manner based on our income, debt levels and league position.
On this, I reluctantly agree but it doesn’t mean I can’t see the huge risks involved.
Surely land value in Brentford is more though? I know Brentford's stadium is built on about 4 acres less of land but I would've thought land in that part of London must be insane prices.It was always going to be expensive. Land value alone in Oxfordshire is quite high (might be another reason behind the objections?)
Surely land value in Brentford is more though? I know Brentford's stadium is built on about 4 acres less of land but I would've thought land in that part of London must be insane prices.
They got a bigger stadium in a prime London location for half the cost (I'm obviously not a developer though so maybe there's a reason ours is so much more?)
Go to where all the stadium documents are scroll down they are at the bottomHow do you find the comments?
They didn't have to buy 650 armitage shanks toiletsI suspect there’s a whole host of things at play:
- Building materials have rocketed in cost since COVID and remain very high,
- The specification of the stadiums will differ and ours seems to be very high, with particular focus on sustainable materials and energy. None of that comes cheap.
- Ours has a hotel. I don’t believe theirs does.
- The s106 contributions will be different.
I’m sure there’s loads more that could help explain the delta.
Having just skimmed through the supportive comments on the planning application, nobody has yet mentioned the the fact that OUFC will be paying for the Stratfiels Brake sports pitches to be upgraded. I will certainly mention it when I get round to my submission this weekend.