Transfer News 2022/23 Season Incoming Transfers and a few other things

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CCYellow said:
So, we don't need 4 CBs for 2 positions, but we do need 4 strikers for 1 position?
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Different strikers gives you different options, especially off the bench. No one ever changes centre backs to freshen up a game!!
 
Scotchegg said:
The strength is in the depth to the squad. Taylor, Baldock, Scarlett and Sinclair (IF they sign) is better than Taylor, Agyei and Winnall that we started last season with.
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This would be the point of adding Sinclair - depth - particularly if we get a young loanee striker in too.
Someone who is happy to play second fiddle (not Norwood), someone who can shake things up a bit when he comes in (not Winnall) and someone who is likely to offer something a bit different, and is likely to perform better on the pitch than in fan fokelore (not Agyei).
Would use up a small amount of the budget, leaving more for the more prominent signings to come (who, in the case of eg Scarlett, won't need the squad place)
 
OxfordYankee said:
It just doesn’t stack up.

On one hand we’re told that the budget is up and that we’re looking to compete for promotion, and on the other we have Jones and Sinclair as potential signings, both of whom are certainly in the last chance saloon stage of their career.

It makes no sense to me.

Unless, the claims of significant financial backing for KR are wide of the mark/or have changed. Maybe, he’s fishing in a poorer pool than we hoped he would be. I doubt it, but at least the bargain-basket-at-Woolies potential signings would make some sense.
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That’s my issue.

I don’t mind if KR and the board said ‘we can’t compete with the bigger spenders in the division. We’ll pay what we think is right and aim for the top half, hopefully playoffs’.

I’d be comfortable with that. League 1 is becoming a financial Wild West with teams desperate to reach the Championship. Parachute payments are driving a wedge between the haves and have nots. It’s very easy to get into financial difficulty and we don’t have the revenue streams to really be a big hitter.

However, the messaging is one of ‘going for it. We’re spending like never before’ and yet it doesn’t feel like it. Re-signing Baldock and Bodin isn’t bringing in new talent. Looking at Sinclair - an unprolific ‘striker’ who nobody wanted for the 2021-22 campaign doesn’t compute with what’s being said.

Be honest with the fans. Say what sort of campaign we want. It needn’t be ‘we’re not going up’ but it should be ‘we’re aiming for the upper reaches of what our budget is capable of’. That means we can finish ahead of 70% of the teams in this league but we can’t realistically compete with Ipswich and Portsmouth for those massive salaries.
 
OxfordYankee said:
It just doesn’t stack up.

On one hand we’re told that the budget is up and that we’re looking to compete for promotion, and on the other we have Jones and Sinclair as potential signings, both of whom are certainly in the last chance saloon stage of their career.

It makes no sense to me.

Unless, the claims of significant financial backing for KR are wide of the mark/or have changed. Maybe, he’s fishing in a poorer pool than we hoped he would be. I doubt it, but at least the bargain-basket-at-Woolies potential signings would make some sense.
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Nope. But we are getting bashed about like bu**ery in the market.

If you look back over recent seasons we have dealt largely in three types of player:

1) Injured free agents looking for an opportunity to get fit again, with minimal suitors due to the extent of their issues.

2) Loan players who are looking for their level / trying to reignite their careers, rather than sparkling prospects who their parent clubs genuinely want to keep and develop.

3) Irish untested prospects.

There are some exceptions, but these waters are where the majority of players are pulled from. This is because the club structure is not set up to compete for the most promising players or those with a number of suitors who we need to go toe to toe with. We’ll pinch the odd one, but they’re the exception rather than the rule. There is money, good money (well over a million quid has been dropped on the training ground refresh alone this summer), but it’s hard to spend it when nearly every player you want has got up to half a dozen other offers on the table, and you don’t even have a DoF / Chief Exec figure to schmooze the deal home.

Findlay has barely played in 18 months and is OOC in the States this Christmas, so it looks like we’re nipping in with a bit of cash and a three year deal. Good for Philadelphia, good for the player, and hopefully good for us. But we aren’t fighting anybody off for him, because most other clubs see a guy who has barely kicked a ball in over a season at a level comparable to upper League One for the most part. And let me be clear - I am not slagging the player off in saying that. He was superb in the SPL and we tried to sign him twice in the past going back three years or so, but that’s kind of the point. We couldn’t get him before. If we get him now it’s because we have stolen in when he’s fallen off the radar and other clubs aren’t hot on his heels. We are opportunists and risk takers, but there is a ceiling in that sort of existence.

Before anybody starts, I am not doom mongering. I have actually been pretty positive this summer and think we will have a decent, competitive squad by the end of the window. I think we will also pick up a player or two who we wouldn’t normally be able to obtain, possibly including a loan player that their club actually sees a future in, and that we will have a decent season. Whether decent means meeting goals and expectations is another matter, but decent none the less.

However, until the structure of the club is overhauled, it’s an uphill battle. Not impossible, but difficult. More difficult than it needs to be. Some of that is going to need the board to be more involved and hands on, and some of it is going to involve the manager letting go. One leads to the other in that regard, but it has to happen. There is no point having money to spend if there aren’t the mechanisms in place to spend it effectively.

It’ll be alright. Eventually.
 
Considering we play up front was our third choice ever going to be a player who is on much money? Not exactly a shock although I expected it to be a kid from the prem who would be taken back in January after not playing enough, guess premier league clubs are doing there homework to see if youngsters they loan out are actually going to play much.

More important we get the players around the first team right to me, those who are going to feature regularly, those remaining signings are the big ones that will decide our fate this season, we won’t be splashing out big money on the whole squad at this level.
 
werthersoriginal said:
I quite liked him. We have plenty of squad places so it’s no risk.
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I suppose that depends on how many squad places are taken up with players with some risk attached. We already have Browne and Gorrin who are on their way back from long term injuries plus JJ training with us and another who has not played for a year (Is that Sinclair?), so potentially four right there.

I actually never minded Sinclair either, while he was never prolific, I always thought he brought others into play quite well, creating chances for our wide players.
 
Followtheox1 said:
I suppose that depends on how many squad places are taken up with players with some risk attached. We already have Browne and Gorrin who are on their way back from long term injuries plus JJ training with us and another who has not played for a year (Is that Sinclair?), so potentially four right there.

I actually never minded Sinclair either, while he was never prolific, I always thought he brought others into play quite well, creating chances for our wide players.
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Is Jones still here? According to a tweet posted above he is training with Reading now.
 
CCYellow said:
So, we don't need 4 CBs for 2 positions, but we do need 4 strikers for 1 position?
Makes sense....
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It makes sense to me.
Even if you look at last season, our 4th CBs played what 3 games in the league ( maybe 2 substitutions)?
IF we play Taylor and Baldock in a 2 upfront. It is likely that one or even both will come off before the end of a game and will need to be replaced. So even in one game all 4 are likely to be used. The 4th CB won't even make the bench.
Having said that whether we 'need' 4 strikers is another thing. Browne can play in the middle if required and we do have O'Donkor
 
mooro said:
This would be the point of adding Sinclair - depth - particularly if we get a young loanee striker in too.
Someone who is happy to play second fiddle (not Norwood), someone who can shake things up a bit when he comes in (not Winnall) and someone who is likely to offer something a bit different, and is likely to perform better on the pitch than in fan fokelore (not Agyei).
Would use up a small amount of the budget, leaving more for the more prominent signings to come (who, in the case of eg Scarlett, won't need the squad place)
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But what on earth is the point of having a backup striker who doesn't score goals and has not done so throughout his whole career which encompasses various levels in various countries? By that logic, we may as well sign a backup goalie who can't catch the ball, a backup defensive midfielder who won't tackle and a one legged winger because they add depth? I'd much rather play one of our youngsters in that role - Sinclair isn't going to develop any further and is worth absolutely nothing, at least one of our up and coming players might add something, even if that something is only enthusiasm and a bit of pace!
 
Foley said:
It makes sense to me.
Even if you look at last season, our 4th CBs played what 3 games in the league ( maybe 2 substitutions)?
IF we play Taylor and Baldock in a 2 upfront. It is likely that one or even both will come off before the end of a game and will need to be replaced. So even in one game all 4 are likely to be used. The 4th CB won't even make the bench.
Having said that whether we 'need' 4 strikers is another thing. Browne can play in the middle if required and we do have O'Donkor
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Can’t see us playing two up top, we are not going to play 3 at the back by the looks of it so two centre forwards and a few attacking midfielders would leave us exposed.
 
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