Transfer News Transfer Window Summer 21

[Scotchegg]

No one responded last time, so I'll say it again. 2 million minus 20% equals 1.6 million

May the reported fee is what we're hoping to gain after sell on?

We had a similar deal with Dickie. Sold for £1.9m, pocketed £1.5m which was the valuation expected for someone with only a year left on their contract.

I think you're right, a fee of around £2m will be where we're looking for Atkinson with decent add ons.

 

[Swaby39]

Everyone knows there are no guarantees in football but has the current model got us to the Autos because whatever anyone thinks that's where a club with aim of top 30 has to be not gambling on the Lottery that is the Play Offs. This does not mean we have not done ok and given fans decent entertainment but as i'm always saying take the play off scenario away and would a club any club have to adapt their policy and approach when they are 15 / 20 + pts off of top 2 ? of course they would.

The idea surely is to improve your squad with the odd tweak here or there not weaken it by allowing better players to go each year whilst stating the aim to be a top 30 club because as i've continued to say most seasons you need a helluva lot of luck to get into an automatic promotion spot with that approach.

As another poster has said we've seen players go within days of offers being in the public domain,Gavin Whyte is a prime example as on the monday/tuesday was going nowhere yet by Friday he was gone. We gambled with our promotion opportunity by letting Fosu and Baptise go and yes we know fosu had a get out clause but why was there not a cut off point included instead of being allowed to exit just days before the window closed and we had to scrape around for replacements whilst breaking up the squad.

We can have cut off points after which we wont listen to offers, if players and other clubs know this then everyone knows the policy rather than what comes across as grab the money and then expect the manager / recruitment to find replacements in a few days.

I do certainly agree with you on deadlines as this is something I have always admired about Dortmund - 'this is the price, it isn't changing. And if we don't see it by XX/XX/XXXX he's staying with us'. It's an excellent & transparent approach that keeps agents and bullying buying clubs in check. However, the stakes are not as high at our level and we don't have the financial muscle to pass on good offers and hope they come back around.

My answer to everything else is you can lose a position in the top 30 far quicker than you can gain it. Just ask Leeds, Norwich, Southampton, Sheffield United and the crop of has-beens that find themselves troubleshooting their clubs in L1 again this year due to a lack of long-term vision. I can assure you Peterborough nor Brentford targeted much other than promotion - however you get there, it means the same thing.

A wantaway player of any ability is not worth having over someone with everything to play for and thankful to have the opportunity. Say we declined the offer and kept RA against his will, would we get the same player back here next season with the same drive? Maybe, but unlikely. And the money could be used somewhere that builds us the infrastructure to stay in the top 30 once we get there...

 

[horseman]

I think there was a very strong chance of us making the autos in the season that was ended by Covid. And last season Peterborough made the autos with exactly this model.

That's a valid point but in the case of Posh they had been higher up so had cash in the bank so to speak and tend to replace with ready made rather than development.

This coming season the league looks strong with 10/11/12 likely candidates + the normal surprise side or 2. Our manager acknowledges that last seasons team was of lower standard that the previous season but includes some very decent players. Why weaken that squad and give yourself a harder task, remember we need top 2 if we are to achieve our aim.Not forgetting should we get promoted it will cost far more to replace an Atkinson so why when the player is already in the building and under contract.

 

[horseman]

We had a similar deal with Dickie. Sold for £1.9m, pocketed £1.5m which was the valuation expected for someone with only a year left on their contract.

I think you're right, a fee of around £2m will be where we're looking for Atkinson with decent add ons.

1.9m with a year left but just a few pennies more with 2 left ?

 

[Marked Ox]

We will see

Bristol City put bid on table for U's Rob Atkinson but takeover may derail move

Robins have got their eye on defender and are hopeful of success but must wait to see who has control of the U's

www.bristolpost.co.uk

The more that article goes on the more the author gets unsure. And the leaving the bid on the table comment in the tweet suggests we aren't exactly busting a gut to get back to them. I'd suggest (pure guesswork) that Bristol City will have to up their offer a good chunk nearer to the Dickie fee to get Atkinson. Whether that be more money or a young player or 2 we like as part of the deal I wouldn't have a clue. And considering BCFC got over £1m (rumoured anyway) for Sammie Szmodics who was surplus to requirements for them for his move to Peterborough, I hope we play hardball should he actually go.

 

[SteMerritt]

That's a valid point but in the case of Posh they had been higher up so had cash in the bank so to speak and tend to replace with ready made rather than development.

This coming season the league looks strong with 10/11/12 likely candidates + the normal surprise side or 2. Our manager acknowledges that last seasons team was of lower standard that the previous season but includes some very decent players. Why weaken that squad and give yourself a harder task, remember we need top 2 if we are to achieve our aim.Not forgetting should we get promoted it will cost far more to replace an Atkinson so why when the player is already in the building and under contract.

For what it's worth, I'd not sell Atkinson this summer if he does have 2 years left. I'd be telling him that if he performs well again in the coming season then the offers will return, and we will not stand in his way next summer if the valuation is met.

...but then it's not my money or livelihood being talked about.

 

[Manorlounger]

For what it's worth, I'd not sell Atkinson this summer if he does have 2 years left. I'd be telling him that if he performs well again in the coming season then the offers will return, and we will not stand in his way next summer if the valuation is met.

...but then it's not my money or livelihood being talked about.

Sound argument. Losing Atkinson at this time would be paramount to writing off the start of the season again. We still don't have any left sided defenders in the squad and pre-season starts with the players back next week.

 

[Scotchegg]

1.9m with a year left but just a few pennies more with 2 left ?

Dickie had 150+ games at a league club before being sold, Atkinson has 40 odd.

I agree with you that we shouldn't be looking to sell from a football perspective, and we shouldn't need to sell from a financial perspective. However, we also know that the model with have is in place to help us bring in the right players knowing that they will move on if successful.

IF we sell, and I've said before that this is the time when clubs sound each other out and frequently comes to nothing, then we have to look at a fair valuation. £2m for a league one centre back with one season under their belt is pretty much a top end valuation. Anything more will be incredible.

 

[Foley]

As somebody else said, Moores contract position becomes even more important if Atkinson leaves.
He has one more season on his contract so the last thing that we want is for both to leave.

 

[Marked Ox]

As somebody else said, Moores contract position becomes even more important if Atkinson leaves.
He has one more season on his contract so the last thing that we want is for both to leave.

I hope we can do something along the lines of the Cam Brannagan contract. If we can I reckon this could be one of our best deals this summer.

 

[Tomox]

A mate of mine reckons we're after Billy Bodin

 

[LeftSideBoy]

A mate of mine reckons we're after Billy Bodin

Less than 40 games in 3 years. No thanks.

 

[horseman]

10:32



OXFORD TO REJECT ATKINSON BID
Oxford United are set to reject Bristol City’s initial offer of £1.4m for defender Rob Atkinson.
Atkinson has two years left on his current deal and the club are looking for in excess of £2m for the player signed from non-league Eastleigh in January 2020. Atkinson was named in the League One team of the season in his debut campaign in the EFL.
Celtic have also been linked with the 22-year-old.

 

[Marked Ox]

10:32



OXFORD TO REJECT ATKINSON BID
Oxford United are set to reject Bristol City’s initial offer of £1.4m for defender Rob Atkinson.
Atkinson has two years left on his current deal and the club are looking for in excess of £2m for the player signed from non-league Eastleigh in January 2020. Atkinson was named in the League One team of the season in his debut campaign in the EFL.
Celtic have also been linked with the 22-year-old.

Good.

 

[werthersoriginal]

10:32



OXFORD TO REJECT ATKINSON BID
Oxford United are set to reject Bristol City’s initial offer of £1.4m for defender Rob Atkinson.
Atkinson has two years left on his current deal and the club are looking for in excess of £2m for the player signed from non-league Eastleigh in January 2020. Atkinson was named in the League One team of the season in his debut campaign in the EFL.
Celtic have also been linked with the 22-year-old.

… is the correct answer. Only problem would be if Rob has a hissy fit and basically says he'll go on strike unless we let him go - which I doubt.

 

[IsleofWightYellow]

10:32



OXFORD TO REJECT ATKINSON BID
Oxford United are set to reject Bristol City’s initial offer of £1.4m for defender Rob Atkinson.
Atkinson has two years left on his current deal and the club are looking for in excess of £2m for the player signed from non-league Eastleigh in January 2020. Atkinson was named in the League One team of the season in his debut campaign in the EFL.
Celtic have also been linked with the 22-year-old.

£1.4m not a good price for him according to the club then!

 

[LeftSideBoy]

 

[RyanioBirdio]

A lot of talk about how we only sign these players because they trust us not to stand in their way. Within reason - people need to pay a fair fee. Players can’t have it all their own way and this isn’t a social club that you can waltz in and out of freely. It’s one thing if you’re asking for silly money, but it’s quite another to be in a position to go, “Listen mate, they’re coming up short and they know it - we’re about 500k apart. As soon as we get that, and this really is fair, you’re free to go. Until then, we have a contract.”

If the offer has been rejected and we’re holding out for at least a few hundreds grand more, it’s not only fair and realistic but looking after the club’s interests.

 

[brassmonkey]

The first rule of selling is don't drop your pants.

 

[Mad Dog]

Less than 40 games in 3 years. No thanks.

It’s a dead cert then!