New Stadium Plans - The Triangle - Planning

[Concretebob]

I wonder if the city would be interested in BOGOF deal?

Work begins in Oxford to remove trees for new bridge

Oxford City Council says the crossing will improve walking and cycling routes into the city.

www.bbc.co.uk

I hope they consulted Hill Bridge Building Consultants LTD of Tackley before submitting those plans.

 

[Orkney Islands Yellow]

Great that the bridge is in the plans to appease the locals but I still feel its an unnecessary expense, use of materials and land that'll mean a permanent feature those opposing the stadium will inevitably call an eyesore that'll only mostly be used for a couple of hours every other week 9 months of the year.

Just close the road for a few minutes before and after the game and allow fans to use the 500 metres of space between the roundabout and entrance to Parkway!

 

[Concretebob]

Great that the bridge is in thecplsns to appease the locals but I still feel its an unnecessary expense, use of materials and land that'll mean a permanent feature those opposing the stadium will inevitably call an eyesore that'll only mostly be used for a couple of hours every other week 9 months of the year.

Just close the road for a few minutes before and after the game and allow fans to use the 500 metres of space between the roundabout and entrance to Parkway!

But Steve said there is no bridge in the plans, and he's an expert on these kind of things!

 

[MJB]

Great that the bridge is in the plans to appease the locals but I still feel its an unnecessary expense, use of materials and land that'll mean a permanent feature those opposing the stadium will inevitably call an eyesore that'll only mostly be used for a couple of hours every other week 9 months of the year.

Just close the road for a few minutes before and after the game and allow fans to use the 500 metres of space between the roundabout and entrance to Parkway!

There was political pressure for it so if the experts say it’s necessary, it’ll get built. If not and alternatives are found to be better, it won’t.

The club can’t have done any more so can’t be criticised now on this. It’s a fantastic location for public transport links which will dramatically reduce car use within and to Oxfordshire.

If that includes a bridge, fine. If not, the other measures will be entirely sensible and the pearl clutching from a small number of Chicken Lickens will be soon forgotten within weeks of the stadium opening.

 

[Wallop]

There was political pressure for it so if the experts say it’s necessary, it’ll get built. If not and alternatives are found to be better, it won’t.

The club can’t have done any more so can’t be criticised now on this. It’s a fantastic location for public transport links which will dramatically reduce car use within and to Oxfordshire.

If that includes a bridge, fine. If not, the other measures will be entirely sensible and the pearl clutching from a small number of Chicken Lickens will be soon forgotten within weeks of the stadium opening.

Oh I'm sure there will be plenty willing to give it a try!

 

[Foley]

There was political pressure for it so if the experts say it’s necessary, it’ll get built. If not and alternatives are found to be better, it won’t.

The club can’t have done any more so can’t be criticised now on this. It’s a fantastic location for public transport links which will dramatically reduce car use within and to Oxfordshire.

If that includes a bridge, fine. If not, the other measures will be entirely sensible and the pearl clutching from a small number of Chicken Lickens will be soon forgotten within weeks of the stadium opening.

So in planning, can it be decided that the bridge isn't a good idea and from a green perspective, it is best to find alternatives?

 

[OX14]

So in planning, can it be decided that the bridge isn't a good idea and from a green perspective, it is best to find alternatives?

Is the bridge not a separate planning application?

 

[Scotchegg]

Is the bridge not a separate planning application?

Yes. I suspect that it's there as an insurance measure so that if it is decided that bridge access is needed then it can immediately be added.

 

[Billyox]

Is the bridge not a separate planning application?

Yes one half of the bridge is on land we are not leasing

 

[Orkney Islands Yellow]

Plus it's detached from the stadium and partly in a different plot of land/ title number so it'll need to be a separate application. Sadly that could lead to a situation where the stadium application is approved by CDC but OCC/Levy/Miller insist on a bridge before signing the lease but CDC won't approve the application for the bridge. It wouldn't surprise me at all if this is the two councils' masterplan to stop the stadium.

 

[Concretebob]

Plus it's detached from the stadium and partly in a different plot of land/ title number so it'll need to be a separate application. Sadly that could lead to a situation where the stadium application is approved by CDC but OCC/Levy/Miller insist on a bridge before signing the lease but CDC won't approve the application for the bridge. It wouldn't surprise me at all if this is the two councils' masterplan to stop the stadium.

I mean a road closure could work, just a thought?

 

[Orkney Islands Yellow]

I mean a road closure could work, just a thought?

Absolutely would work but it seems OCC/Levy/Miller won't formally sign the lease for the land without a bridge. They're dead against a road closure here.

 

[Concretebob]

Absolutely would work but it seems OCC/Levy/Miller won't formally sign the lease for the land without a bridge. They're dead against a road closure here.

It's truly frustrating that the simplest solution seems to be being rejected.

 

[Orkney Islands Yellow]

It's truly frustrating that the simplest solution seems to be being rejected.

It's the only card the OCC/Levy/Miller have of stopping the stadium so they're playing it. Let's hope councillors at CDC aren't in cahoots.

 

[Concretebob]

It's the only card the OCC/Levy/Miller have of stopping the stadium so they're playing it. Let's hope councillors at CDC aren't in cahoots.

Let's hope a certain "meister" is nowhere near the decision

 

[Foley]

It's the only card the OCC/Levy/Miller have of stopping the stadium so they're playing it. Let's hope councillors at CDC aren't in cahoots.

I would very much doubt it.
Green belt I would have thought is the biggest risk.
Our friend Steve Hill was suggesting at one stage a judicial review, but this is based on process not being followed?

 

[Oxymoron]

As I understand it, the lease has been [legally] agreed dependant upon the stadium plans being approved. The submitted plans do not include the provisioning of a bridge.

Planning law mandates that each application must be judged on it's own merits, so the approval of the stadium plans cannot be made conditional upon the approval of a separate planning application (for the bridge).

Legal team played a blinder there.

 

[mooro]

Incidentally, of course, getting this news means a defeat against Orient, as we always lose after getting positive off the field news..

 

[Foley]

Incidentally, of course, getting this news means a defeat against Orient, as we always lose after getting positive off the field news..

Spot on Mooro

 

[Concretebob]

As I understand it, the lease has been [legally] agreed dependant upon the stadium plans being approved. The submitted plans do not include the provisioning of a bridge.

Planning law mandates that each application must be judged on it's own merits, so the approval of the stadium plans cannot be made conditional upon the approval of a separate planning application (for the bridge).

Legal team played a blinder there.

Ooft, now that's a positive! Still don't trust Miller etc at all though.