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Iโm also in SSL and the abuse hurled at the team and Des was horrible. Some of the people by me were not staring by any means. The language was foul and there were young children by those shouting. Do these idiots really believe theyโre helping the team by such a torrent of abuse.I raised this point last week and in my opinion it is definitely reflective of the football. Look how the atmosphere went up a bit last night in the second half when we were a bit more front foot. Iโm SSL and around me people were just staring blankly out there in the first half - no ones calling out anyone, no ones questioning the ref etc, people just looked fed up with it. Occasionally there was the odd dissenting voice aimed at Buckingham but that was about it.
Interestingly, Iโve found myself at both Man City and Liverpool home games in past 18 months and those atmospheres mirror what theyโre watching as well. City is honestly like being in a morgue 85% of the time, then when they eventually reach the final third and quicken the play, the crowd come to life. Liverpool though is far more raucous from the first to last minute, the crowd right up for it and urging the players on, Klopp driving them forward. When Liverpools full backs have it the crowd rise in anticipation of something happening - a bit like we used to be when Baldock would get on the ball.
Agree with all of that but why isn't more being done to get the younger generation going? When was the last time we done kids for a quid for example. We just act like a club going nowhere in too many departments which lets down the areas we are doing well in. The website being down for this long just highlights how amateur we are.We as fans not singing has nothing to do with the football we play, we were terrible under Patterson in the conference that season, 5 thousand crowd and we still made much more noise than we do now. Just got an old and ageing fan base now, might be more people but the number of geriatrics in the east stand makes me, at 45, feel young. Most people in their fifties and above, apart from moaning at the ref/manager/players/football/life in general don't make a lot of noise, which is fair enough as I can't see me "going f*****g mental" at 65 years old, probably be to tired from climbing the stairs. Add in its more family groups and you have the recipe for sterility.
Our only decent atmosphere this season came away to Leyton Orient which was a lads day out type crowd, mostly groups of blokes who had been drinking, home games are nothing like that so you won't see much of an improvement.
The last time he played anything remotely close to this was leading up to the Arsenal FA Cup game. Heโs not daft.Those suggesting that Murphy id only performing because his contract is up at the end of the season have a very strange idea of what motivates a professional footballer. This is the first time he has been selected
Thatโs an incredibly linear view of the situation. Thousands and thousands of people have been going to games week in, week out for years and decades at a time, and Iโm pretty sure they donโt do that solely because all they crave or care about is three points. Theyโre at the wrong club if thatโs the only motivator. Itโs really not about that.On a different note - people seem very angry/sad and a few are saying they're not enjoying it at the moment. All reasonable emotions, but if I were them I'd consider not going for a while - if you're only going to enjoy a game if we win, you're going to be miserable more often than not.
Re Long. Yes to a degree, but he took us from a postition of control in their half to our keeper being under pressure in our half with 1 bizarre pass, from then we didn't regain control. So yes, there was intervening play, but his action took us from front to back foot.Of all the players youโve decided to slate the one who only played for 15 minutes?!
As for people blaming Long for the 2nd goal, yes it was a bad/odd decision but the goal wasnโt scored until 26 seconds later after that pass. In that time there were at least 3 changes to get rid of the ball.
That isnโt even taking into account that it should have been offside.
F8ck me - the last thing we need on this forum is more "truth" tellersEr, he wasnโt so great his second time round was he?
I am the truth teller on this forum. Someone has to be.
I think you're assuming everyone around you has the same feelings as you.Thatโs an incredibly linear view of the situation. Thousands and thousands of people have been going to games week in, week out for years and decades at a time, and Iโm pretty sure they donโt do that solely because all they crave or care about is three points. Theyโre at the wrong club if thatโs the only motivator. Itโs really not about that.
I donโt enjoy being at games from the first minute these days. I didnโt enjoy the Wigan game last week even though we won 4-2, and I didnโt enjoy anything about last night even when we were winning on two separate occasions. I was talking to my mum on Sunday night and actually winced when I realised that I had not one, but two home games to attend this week. The football is flat, the atmosphere is flatter and it doesnโt feel like anybody who sits anywhere near me is any more arsed or inspired than I am at the moment. Itโs a total apathy fest. It genuinely feels like almost nobody wants to be there at the moment. Itโs people reporting for duty because โthatโs what you doโ.
I donโt know what the answer is. I donโt know whether anybody does, to be honest.
I think youโre equally assuming they definitely donโt.I think you're assuming everyone around you has the same feelings as you.
It would be pretty weird if everyone around you had the same feelings.I think youโre equally assuming they definitely donโt.
Maybe youโre right.
Not entirely sure that you can take one good moment (although there *were* some others as well) and infer that means that the rest of the match was a joy!Strange people are saying the football is flat when two new signings combined to score one of the best goals Iโve seen for a long time
Long put us under pressure with a ridiculous back pass but it was their defender who launched it forwards. Hoskins is coming back from chasing down Long's back pass, is at least 30 yards offside and Negru has to adjust his run to get round him so he's interfering with play. My understanding was if the defender tries to play it it's fair game, which is already nonsense, but Negru hadn't even done that yet. Stand to be corrected but I think it's a horrendous decision. If you're being really generous you could say Negru changing his run got him caught under the ball as well so he couldn't clear it but that's well into the territory of making too many excuses for him.Not fully up with the changes to the rules on offside these days, but with Long being the plank to last touch the ball. Does that not rule out Hoskins from being offside
maybe bring it up with one of the ousp lot?Has anyone noticed that in the past couple of midweek games, what I presume are a group of local kids, walk around the stadium shining a green laser into the crowd? It's happened at a few games now, and last night it went directly into our eyes in the SSU.