Home Match Day Thread 18/5/2021 Play Off L1 OUFC v Blackpool

[QR]

Does anyone have a link to the second minute penalty shout? It's not on the iFollow highlights and i don't have Sky. ta

 

[DavidB]

We looked like league one players against a potential championship team.
As long as they give 100percent, I don’t mind. If they’re not good enough that’s fine.

 

[The mighty Aldo]

Reading their managers assessment of how they watch other teams and stop them playing should ring alarm bells for KR
Blackpool produced a carbon copy performance of what they did here in the league.
Pressed us and scored two first half goals and job done.
How did we not learn and then set up to combat this? Did our players not watch a re run of that game?
Yes Blackpool are a superior team but perhaps we should have played a different formation with Gorrin the side and leave Agyei as the striker with pace for the ball over the top as we soak up pressure and hit them on the break, more like an away game.
Maybe not what the fans want but could be a different outcome

 

[Yellow Mustard]

Simms and Yates are Championship level together. A nightmare for our very good centre backs, who are still very good centre backs by the way.

Main issue for me was Bran coming way too deep. He can't pick the ball up between our (ball playing) CBs and the just pass it sideways to our completely ineffective sidebacks, offensively, in Ruffs and Hanson. I know Ruffs has lots of stats blah blah- but he's not a Cadden or a Baldock. He can't carry the ball up the pitch and he has no pace so the shape just doesn't work.

But taking Bran out the game to do NOTHING in between our two CBs when we have possession makes no sense.

Sykes played very well. Well done him.

Got spanked by a Championship level team. So sad that Friday is now a non event. Robbed me of one of my few joys losing like that in the first leg!

 

[BigLad]

He did more short pass outs from the back then go long and when he did go long it was because he dithered in the ball inviting the pool forwards to come to him and then he had to hurry and go long. No organisation at the back the ball is rolled out to a full back and they closed us down very quickly. We are just not good enough to go long quickly and catch out the opponents, so we go short and spend so much time passing between the defence and Stevens.

It amazes me still the ignorance of comments like this, there are strict instructions given in the lead up to a game by the management and Stevens would have been told to go short to the centrehalfs and ignoring such instruction(s) at this level just would not be accepted.

Problem we have with this, from my personal view is we have one centre half that actively wants the ball and another that seems to clearly not and automatically gives it back whether pressured or not.

Think claiming Stevens was dithering on the ball is more that of a frustrated fan that’s annoyed. it’s clear we struggle to compete for any high balls that originate from the keeper or defence at length due to our lack of height and I personally think it’s more a problem with the midfield not showing for direct passes into their area via a short pass from the keeper or defender, hence the ball goes back. But this maybe us the fan base expecting PL ability from League One players.

 

[holdsteady]

This is interesting. There are plenty who say that we should play our own game and leave it to the opposition to worry about us.

I don’t think many modern football teams do that, why bother scouting the opposition if you are not going to use that information.

Football is a duller game for it but it’s becoming more like a physical chess match where you do anything to gain an advantage.

 

[Manorlounger]

I don’t think many modern football teams do that, why bother scouting the opposition if you are not going to use that information.

Football is a duller game for it but it’s becoming more like a physical chess match where you do anything to gain an advantage.

It is almost too tempting to respond with "except OUFC" so I won't.

 

[Osei Yaw]

What I would give to have a player like Simms at Oxford next season. Big, strong, quick and aggressive. Taylor/Agyei would both score a hatful playing along side him (although chances of Robbo ever going 2 up top are slim). I really like both Atkinson and Moore and think they're both bound to play in the Championship at some point, but they struggled to handle Simms. He was Blackpool's outlet all game and the exact type of player we could've done with when they forced us to go longer.

I know people loved to complain about Dunkley, but he is the exact type of centre back we needed to compete. Passing the ball out nicely is great and something I always want to see us try and do, but it's very much of secondary importance of you can't win it in the first place. We needed a centre back of real power and aggression to deal with them yesterday. I don't blame Atkinson or Moore either, they must be knackered having had absolutely no cover all season and have both done really well all year, but it highlighted the need not only for cover but also a big aggressive player to counter that sort of threat, we'll always struggle against any direct team like that otherwise.

 

[greatunclekip]

Reading their managers assessment of how they watch other teams and stop them playing should ring alarm bells for KR
Blackpool produced a carbon copy performance of what they did here in the league.
Pressed us and scored two first half goals and job done.
How did we not learn and then set up to combat this? Did our players not watch a re run of that game?
Yes Blackpool are a superior team but perhaps we should have played a different formation with Gorrin the side and leave Agyei as the striker with pace for the ball over the top as we soak up pressure and hit them on the break, more like an away game.
Maybe not what the fans want but could be a different outcome

One thing that cannot be argued in my opinion is that tactics are not Robbos strong point. I can count on one hand the number of times hes made a tactical switch that has made a big difference.

He reminds me very much of Kevin Keegan. Attack, flair, get at them, a bit lightweight, dont worry about them they can worry about us.

 

[southcoastyellow]

I just wondered Craig Shorts position as assistant, saw KR speaking to Faz in the stands, and Mous seems very involved in the technical area?
This is in no way a criticism just an observation from TV pictures?

 

[nick68]

I've seen a lot of comments on here about how we don't change our game plan according to the opposition. I can't believe that is actually true, if you're trying to suggest we don't take account of the strengths and weaknesses of the other team then you're nuts, just because our formation and game plan doesn't drastically change every game we will be mindful of what the opposition like to do.
Also If Blackpool base their entire philosophy on what the other team is likely to do then I'd take us every time, i want my team to have their own identity and win/lose games by trying to entertain rather than spoiling tactics. May as well get Ian Atkins back if that's what people want?

 

[WuTang]

Under no pressure at the back? They had 3 players high pressing every time Jack had the ball. He rarely had the option of doing other than kick it long. We didn't throw our game out of the window, they stopped us opening the window.

At times yes, and as I said there were also countless times they put no pressure on at all and we STILL played it long.

They didn't harry and press our goalkeeper and defence for 90 minutes solid, claiming they stopped our game is absolutely false.

 

[Malc]

Does anyone have a link to the second minute penalty shout? It's not on the iFollow highlights and i don't have Sky. ta

The complete game is now on the OWS

 

[captainox]

Defensive shape was all over the shop. Back to how it was a times in the first part of the season. Blackpool are known for playing balls into the channels for Simms/Yates yet we could not get to grips with it whatsoever.

We also won very few 50/50s - bit of brute force missing in the midfield. And we all know that once Brannagan starts trying to dictate play from deep, that it means we're struggling. If Gorrin isn't playing, we lack a proper tackle maker. Always have. We can get away with if if we're on top in a game. But it doesn't half show when we're being overrun in midfield like last night.

One thing that really bugs me about KR is that we rarely/never swap the winger's sides, even for 10 minutes. It was clear after Barker's early first half runs, that Blackpool had developed a plan to limit his affect on the left. So why not switch him to the right, just to give the other full-back something to think about, if it doesn't work then fair enough, but at least give it a try.

Saying all the above, if Sykes could actually finish, that would have changed the game. Lost count how many chances he has missed this season. As well as he played, he missed that chance and made a ridiculous challenge for the free-kick that led to the first goal. No need to go diving in as it presents the opportunity for the opposing player to ensure they're touched to claim the foul.

It was a similar way to how we've lost a lot of games this season/under KR - not being able to react to an opposition's midfield unit getting on top.

Credit to Blackpool overall, they played it brilliantly. Knew to bide their time in the second half and they would get a chance to kill us on the counter. Relatively solid and their keeper incredibly commanding. Yates and Simms as a pairing were fantastic.

 

[The mighty Aldo]

I've seen a lot of comments on here about how we don't change our game plan according to the opposition. I can't believe that is actually true, if you're trying to suggest we don't take account of the strengths and weaknesses of the other team then you're nuts, just because our formation and game plan doesn't drastically change every game we will be mindful of what the opposition like to do.
Also If Blackpool base their entire philosophy on what the other team is likely to do then I'd take us every time, i want my team to have their own identity and win/lose games by trying to entertain rather than spoiling tactics. May as well get Ian Atkins back if that's what people want?

See what you are saying but didn’t we learn anything about the first Blackpool game
They pressed us and we had to hit it long so they were going to do the same again
,we turn up last night and exactly the same happens
Surely we have to learn and adapt our game, in fact all the top six have done that to us so we have to change

 

[The mighty Aldo]

^^
or get better players who can play our system

 

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[ZeroTheHero]

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And besides after LOD, aren't we supposed to use TLA ATT?

 

[Manorlounger]

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Boring morning?

 

[battman]

I've seen a lot of comments on here about how we don't change our game plan according to the opposition. I can't believe that is actually true, if you're trying to suggest we don't take account of the strengths and weaknesses of the other team then you're nuts, just because our formation and game plan doesn't drastically change every game we will be mindful of what the opposition like to do.
Also If Blackpool base their entire philosophy on what the other team is likely to do then I'd take us every time, i want my team to have their own identity and win/lose games by trying to entertain rather than spoiling tactics. May as well get Ian Atkins back if that's what people want?

So what do we actually do to change things then? We've been caught out time and time again because we have one way of playing, and when that works we look brilliant and when it doesn't we look completely hopeless. If we didn't change or line-up or formation for Blackpool then can you tell me what Karl and the staff did change to combat the threat they posed?

And I don't think it's a case of Blackpool completely changing their style game-to-game, they have a solid defensive record so we know how they play and it's not like the go from backs against the wall to all out attack depending on who they're playing. When you're a football manager you have to maximise your returns and work with what you have, and exploiting opposition weaknesses isn't something we do enough.