Potential New Ground

[Marked Ox]

My source tells me the club shop will be sharing the space with Ann Summers, if you think that's exciting wait until you see the kit they're making for us!

It'll be better than Cambridge's.

 

[SteMerritt]

My source tells me the club shop will be sharing the space with Ann Summers, if you think that's exciting wait until you see the kit they're making for us!

Can this Ann Summers play left-back? Would be able to keep the opposition wingers restrained, and attacking wise whip in some good crosses. Will also help team mates to finish.

 

[Paul Cannell]

This thread is getting even worse.

 

[Manorlounger]

Don’t forget the considerable brown envelopes.

Alleged, dear boy, alleged.

 

[Manorlounger]

This thread is getting even worse.

I believe they are referred to as 'strings' actually but, yes, they are dreadful.

 

[QR]

Don’t forget the considerable brown envelopes.

If you've got any evidence go to the police. If you haven't, well, says it all.

 

[Essexyellows]

45 years running an Architects & Planning Consultancy - including football stadia.

Now tell me yours?

Mods - I would like to report a murder.

Common sense and a lot of research.
And no bullshit.

Former is a yes.
The latter, I`m not so sure on either right now...............

 

[OX14]

You could also be certain that if the Stadium had potential for extra income uncle F would be allover it.

Kassam does things on the cheap, hence the unfinished stadium with 3 sides. Take what they done with the Westgate land for example, you may think its a white elephant but that is what you call maximising land to its full potential.

 

[Wallop]

My source tells me the club shop will be sharing the space with Ann Summers, if you think that's exciting wait until you see the kit they're making for us!

Josh - you left a few weeks too early - can you imagine - fnnarrr.

 

[RyanioBirdio]

My source tells me the club shop will be sharing the space with Ann Summers, if you think that's exciting wait until you see the kit they're making for us!

If it’s got a vibrating cock ring stitched inside the shorts then count me in.

Size small.

 

[ljs]

Quite - I am aware of the figures of what that would cost from people incredibly itk at the club and it's a total non-starter. I am not going to post them in detail here because that would betray confidences which I'm not prepared to do but suffice to say the purchase cost of the current stadium based on the amount FK would want and the amount of money needed to refurbish it is almost the same as the cost of establishing a brand new bigger capacity stadium with four sides and much enhanced other facilities built in. At the site that has been earmarked, you then have a lot of space to establish the associated revenue-generating facilities and you can design/build these from scratch so that they represent more than some third rate fast food outlets and bowling. And to boot, it's in a much better location for transport and doesn't stink of s**t due to the neighbouring sewage works.

The price element is just one aspect of course. Another is how successful you think a Kassam stadium purchase negotiation will be. Does anyone think he really wants to do a deal (20 years of evidence suggests the total opposite) and even if he did, that it would be a nice, straightforward journey with the club coming out with a tidy result that we'd all think secured the club's future without all sorts of strings attached?

I dont understand why they would even have got into discussions and detail of how much Kassam wants, or wanted, for the stadium if the whole point of them taking on oufc is to do a brand new land deal elsewhere, not on the leys, as we are always being told is the endgame?

Not doubting you, I just don't understand the reasoning.

 

[MJB]

I dont understand why they would even have got into discussions and detail of how much Kassam wants, or wanted, for the stadium if the whole point of them taking on oufc is to do a brand new land deal elsewhere, not on the leys, as we are always being told is the endgame?

Not doubting you, I just don't understand the reasoning.

Think about the planning application and it will become clearer.

 

[Essexyellows]

Let's say FK wants £35-£40 million for the lot stadium, land, hotels, leisure and the like and will walk away.

Can anyone buy a 25 acre site in Oxford, with the tricky & difficult planning already done for that sort of price?

As a bonus it has a half built but functional football ground and tenants paying rent in several units.

Future bonus lots of houses are planned to be built around it.

Stranger things have happened.

 

[Marked Ox]

Let's say FK wants £35-£40 million for the lot stadium, land, hotels, leisure and the like and will walk away.

Can anyone buy a 25 acre site in Oxford, with the tricky & difficult planning already done for that sort of price?

As a bonus it has a half built but functional football ground and tenants paying rent in several units.

Future bonus lots of houses are planned to be built around it.

Stranger things have happened.

You think he'll take £35 -£40m for the lot?!

 

[ljs]

I dont understand why they would even have got into discussions and detail of how much Kassam wants, or wanted, for the stadium if the whole point of them taking on oufc is to do a brand new land deal elsewhere, not on the leys, as we are always being told is the endgame?

Not doubting you, I just don't understand the reasoning.

Think about the planning application and it will become clearer.

I'll give it a go.

Oufc to planners: We want a new stadium at x location please.

Planners: You already have a stadium.

Oufc: Yes, and we tried to buy it but couldn't.

Planners: But, you still do have a stadium to play in for as long as you want?

Oufc: erm, yes.

??

 

[Essexyellows]

You think he'll take £35 -£40m for the lot?!

I have no idea.
Who knows what goes on in peoples heads as their mortality approaches.
He`s 66/67 or so, might want to leave his kids something?
Net worth of £300 million or so its a 10% retirement boost.

 

[arthurturner]

Can this Ann Summers play left-back? Would be able to keep the opposition wingers restrained, and attacking wise whip in some good crosses. Will also help team mates to finish.

Bingo wingers?

 

[Marked Ox]

I have no idea.
Who knows what goes on in peoples heads as their mortality approaches.
He`s 66/67 or so, might want to leave his kids something?
Net worth of £300 million or so its a 10% retirement boost.

I reckon he and his family will value the whole site at far more than £35-£40m based on what he reportedly wants just for the stadium

His kids might prefer the asset than what you suggested.

 

[bazzer9461]

Quite - I am aware of the figures of what that would cost from people incredibly itk at the club and it's a total non-starter. I am not going to post them in detail here because that would betray confidences which I'm not prepared to do but suffice to say the purchase cost of the current stadium based on the amount FK would want and the amount of money needed to refurbish it is almost the same as the cost of establishing a brand new bigger capacity stadium with four sides and much enhanced other facilities built in. At the site that has been earmarked, you then have a lot of space to establish the associated revenue-generating facilities and you can design/build these from scratch so that they represent more than some third rate fast food outlets and bowling. And to boot, it's in a much better location for transport and doesn't stink of s**t due to the neighbouring sewage works.

The price element is just one aspect of course. Another is how successful you think a Kassam stadium purchase negotiation will be. Does anyone think he really wants to do a deal (20 years of evidence suggests the total opposite) and even if he did, that it would be a nice, straightforward journey with the club coming out with a tidy result that we'd all think secured the club's future without all sorts of strings attached?

Has anybody tried to deal with Kassam?

 

[warksox]

The whole grenoble Road site is owned by Kassam, the hotels,Holywood bowl etc all lease the units

Now I'm not saying we should buy the stadium and build a 4th stand as there is no money to be made. What I am saying is buy the lot, stadium, ozone, overflow , priory, completely refigure the whole lot even build higher , underground carparks etc.

Not sure how much that would cost but building new on new land isn't cheap when you have to pay for road adaptions, more in planning, connecting up to the mains etc.

Kassam does not own the cinema, he sold it to Vue in 2005.

Kassam sells Ozone cinema

OXFORD United owner Firoz Kassam has sold his multiplex cinema on land adjoining the football club's stadium to major national operator Vue.

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