Transfer News January 2021/22 Transfer Window

[SwissYellow]

Spoke to someone re: Agyei in the game that had flagged him. In the due diligence they found he was too reserved as a character, they felt he carried that on to the pitch. The general feeling being he was bit too nice and therefore underutilised his talent. I think most are desperate for him to come good with us, but he has seemingly regressed this season. Consistent starts in League Two is probably the best way to go for his career. Is undoubtedly capable but feels like he has reached the end of his time here...a shame as he has offered some big moments!

Ty Marsh, lauded as talented and a lovely bloke and was let down by being too nice. Dropped down to the Leagues matured and is turning back into a prospect. Agyei is only 24 and a few seasons building that mental strength and he could still succeed.

Holland is too nice too and as strong as a twig, McGuane also gets knocked off the ball easy, it makes that whole left side weak.

 

[MiddleBartonYellow]

Can you possibly point me to a period when he's had a run of games from the start? Like i've said he gets judged by cameo appearances where he's expected to do what Matty didn't in the previous 80 minutes and when for whatever reason the service dries up (this often happens after we make subs)

People criticise Matty when he has the odd off game (again largely ignores lack of service) but we know he will come good because he's proven it time and again (over 90 minutes)

You cannot prove yourself in the odd 10 minute cameos or when after being superb when starting (Pompey away) not getting near the team again.

i'm not comparing Matty and Dan for 1 minute but would Matty be the player he is had he been given just brief cameo appearances with service drying up

All about an opinion

Basically you earn minutes on the pitch by what you do on it. He just hasn’t done enough from what I’ve seen.

 

[andystroud]

Have we signed anyone yet?

 

[Marked Ox]

Half that and you’re correct

Less than the release clause?

 

[bazzer9461]

Half that and you’re correct

Worth a couple of million

 

[Common Villager]

Spoke to someone re: Agyei in the game that had flagged him. In the due diligence they found he was too reserved as a character, they felt he carried that on to the pitch. The general feeling being he was bit too nice and therefore underutilised his talent. I think most are desperate for him to come good with us, but he has seemingly regressed this season. Consistent starts in League Two is probably the best way to go for his career. Is undoubtedly capable but feels like he has reached the end of his time here...a shame as he has offered some big moments!

It's interesting you say that as I spoke to him in the stands on the day he was announced and he did come across quite a shy, retiring type; very different to the confident personas most professional footballers tend to exude. I think partly because of that I'd always hoped he'd come good here. For whatever reason it's not worked out for him - it would be nice to see him bag some goals and build his confidence at a lower level.

 

[bashamwonderland]

Agyei has never been given a proper run of games, nor has the system ever been set up to accommodate his pace or style.

He probably should be loaned or sold to advance his career - a career which has not been stifled by his own lack of ability but because of the total failure of management or recognition of his ability.

The fact that we pick Winnall over Agyei is a disgrace - they have similar goalscoring stats but Dan (a developing striker when he joined us) is forced to play unnaturally whereas Winnall is playing in a system suited to his style and he has still offered almost nothing over his 30-odd appearances.

Hopefully they both leave the club soon, not least because Dan deserves a proper chance and Winnall isn't up to League 1 football.

 

[windmill]

Let's kick him out of the club , first game back after glandular fever , league one keeper makes a slight error of judgement which still left plenty of time for the team to recover.
Sack him now ...

OK. Admire your sarcasm. If that was Eastwood the mistake would have been picked on straight away. Agree to differ.

 

[Oxford1996]

Agyei has never been given a proper run of games, nor has the system ever been set up to accommodate his pace or style.

He probably should be loaned or sold to advance his career - a career which has not been stifled by his own lack of ability but because of the total failure of management or recognition of his ability.

The fact that we pick Winnall over Agyei is a disgrace - they have similar goalscoring stats but Dan (a developing striker when he joined us) is forced to play unnaturally whereas Winnall is playing in a system suited to his style and he has still offered almost nothing over his 30-odd appearances.

Hopefully they both leave the club soon, not least because Dan deserves a proper chance and Winnall isn't up to League 1 football.

Bit early on a Monday to be drinking

 

[bashamwonderland]

Bit early on a Monday to be drinking

Good point you make there, I'm going to have to rethink my entire position.

 

[Thomas/Brock/Jones]

OK. Admire your sarcasm. If that was Eastwood the mistake would have been picked on straight away. Agree to differ.

And I'd defend Eastwood the same for that error

 

[Oxford1996]

- @bashamwonderland

Dan Agyei will be 25 years old by the end of the season. He’s probably made about 50 career starts maximum with about 10 goals. I’d be amazed if he ever played higher than where OUFC are now.

 

[MJB]

Also, Agyei claps really weirdly when the team are walking off.

They should be drilling the players on better applauding of the fans during training.

Positively Gove-like. Not good enough.

 

[greatunclekip]

Serious Questions, did Winnall earn our affection yesterday?

I like Sam. I would love him to turn the corner here and the header showed he still has something. A drop to League 2 starting every week would be good for him.

But no. We need something different up front although my suspicion, as I posted last week in anticipation, is that Saturday will have made Robbos mind up that we don't need to strengthen up front.

 

[bashamwonderland]

- @bashamwonderland

Dan Agyei will be 25 years old by the end of the season. He’s probably made about 50 career starts maximum with about 10 goals. I’d be amazed if he ever played higher than where OUFC are now.

none of this addresses what I was actually saying in my post...

His development has been hampered by poor management and lack of opportunity. A system which is never suited to him. He was bought by us as an exciting prospect and is now ageing. He may play higher than us if given a proper chance in a different system.

What part of this are we disagreeing on, exactly?

 

[Oxford1996]

none of this addresses what I was actually saying in my post...

His development has been hampered by poor management and lack of opportunity. A system which is never suited to him. He was bought by us as an exciting prospect and is now ageing. He may play higher than us if given a proper chance in a different system.

What part of this are we disagreeing on, exactly?

I don’t think he will play higher than us.

The buck stops with the player the majority of the time & I’m in agreement with KR & management that he’s not good enough and tbh was a poor signing.

 

[dickwalton1964]

Agreed. Bodin’s corners were a step above anything we’ve seen for months.

I wouldn’t have thought it that difficult for a professional footballer

I don’t think he will play higher than us.

The buck stops with the player the majority of the time & I’m in agreement with KR & management that he’s not good enough and tbh was a poor signing.

Anybody who gets the winner against Swindon can never be considered a poor signing in my book.

 

[werthersoriginal]

Agyei has never been given a proper run of games, nor has the system ever been set up to accommodate his pace or style.

He probably should be loaned or sold to advance his career - a career which has not been stifled by his own lack of ability but because of the total failure of management or recognition of his ability.

The fact that we pick Winnall over Agyei is a disgrace - they have similar goalscoring stats but Dan (a developing striker when he joined us) is forced to play unnaturally whereas Winnall is playing in a system suited to his style and he has still offered almost nothing over his 30-odd appearances.

Hopefully they both leave the club soon, not least because Dan deserves a proper chance and Winnall isn't up to League 1 football.

I don't know why you think there has been poor management of Agyei. That was a view a while back but he's had quite a lot of chances in different positions and although he seemed to be improving at the end of last season he appears to have regressed this year. Also management will see him in training and will know a lot more about him than you do. I really want him to do well but he's so frustrating and often just looks lost. @RyanioBirdio has alluded to ITK stuff which may well be true, but he has to look more capable when he gets on the pitch. He can't expect a system to be set up to accommodate his style when Taylor is our #1 striker.

 

[Foley]

it's not so long ago that the same was being said of (1st name on the sheet) Gorrin, Sykes etc but how has that turned out?

like i said it's opinions and the debate was not whether Dan is better than Matty but whether he is/could be suitable cover and i've given my reasons why i believe he could be (given the same chance)

feel free to tell me which of his attributes i mentioned are wrong or you just disagree with

I think that Agyei doesn't particularly hold the ball up well. I am not sure that his first touch is particularly good.
He can terrorise the defence with his running at them, but normally doesn't! He can equally fall over his own feet and look decidedly average.
My suspicion is that he will get a L2 club at best.
I really hope that he proves a lot of us wrong. I think that he may have to drop a level or two and try and show his abilities there. He doesn't appear to me to have the same kind of determination that got Matt Taylor back after dropping as low as North Leigh, but again, maybe I am wrong.

 

[Foley]

The fact that we pick Winnall over Agyei is a disgrace - they have similar goalscoring stats

Winnall has a far better goalscoring record over his career. Last season Winnall has I believe the best goalscoring record per minute at Oxford.
Whatever Agyei's talents, goalscoring isn't one for a striker.